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Edison S-19 new disc find and praddling on thought process

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 11:16 pm
by DGPros
I have been noticing a common Edison S-19 for weeks on craigslist. Yeah sure I'd check it out, but I already have an A-250. Who the heck needs another phonograph, let alone another Diamond Disc Machine, unless it's an upgrade of course. :D Where would I put it? Hahaha. I already have 3 uprights, it would be foolish to purchase another, especially one as common as the S-19. :lol: Wow, I can't believe I saw 2 other phonographs at great prices right after being posted, and they're sold already! Hmmm. Look, the S-19 has the drop down door, pretty cool. Oh, look :shock: it's filled with DD's and they're in bags. IN BAGS!! They MUST be in good shape. It's an hour away, to far. Wow, think, I could do my own tone test with the A-250 and the S19. Ladies and gentlemen, a single spring 150 horn vs. a dbl spring 250 horn. Oh, and then I can compare it to my Sonora and my Victor L door. That would be interesting. :? Boy you're such a geek, :geek: Those DD's you own already don't even sound very good.A couple sound decent. Hmm Maybe there are better titles in there, after all, they ARE in bags. It may have a muff ball which your early A-250 doesn't have. You've never owned one of those. Heck, you can't even tell if the S-19 HAS a muff ball. Maybe just throw a price at them and see if they bite. Where would I put it if I bought it? I could clean up the backroom in the basement, it really should be cleaned up anyway. It's Oak, your others are Mahogany. You don't even know if the S-19 works!! It could be a fun project, after all it's not THAT expensive. How much fun would it be to go through those DD's and find some 52000 titles. Yeah right. That'll happen. I heard those later discs sound AMAZING! :roll: Right, 100 year old technology sounding great, sure. Let me see what the Frow book says again.....and again.....and again. Ah the hell with it. Pick a price you feel comfortable with and roll the dice. It will be exciting! They probably wouldn't except your offer anyway.It's ONLY an hour away. Sent a text with a price and wait. Just make sure you don't budge from it, after all you REALLY don't need this. "Sorry, we don't accept, but we will come down a few bucks." No, stick to your guns, you had a price point, let it go. There will be other opportunities. I pass. Oh well. 2 hrs later, phone buzzes. A new text. "My husband changed my mind, so we will accept your offer." GREAT, I'll be there tomorrow! What did I just do? I've only seen 3 photos, from a distance, and I don't know if it works? You're such an idiot. You don't need another machine, especially a lesser machine than you have already. It's a good price even if it's a project piece, plus you SHOULD be able to get $2 per disc if you wanted to recoup some money. Right?

Success!I am happy to say the discs are amazingly clean and only a few with issues. I have listened to a few of the 52000 series and I was shocked :o how well they actually do sound. I have cataloged my new additions with a **. I would love to know which titles I should listen to 1st. :coffee: The S-19 does work pretty well but needs a cleaning. No tone test yet. My week of tortured inner monologue was a success after all. The 52000 series I now own are.

52029 R) Lindbergh (Vernon Dalhart)**
L) Lucky Lindy
52082 R) My Lord’s Gonna Move This Wicked Race(Hann’s Emperors)**
L) What Band is This (Hann’s Emperor)
52095 R) My Blue Ridge Mountain Home(Vernon Dalhart) Scratched to Hell
L) When the Moon shines Down Upon the Mountain Very Clean**
52259 R) The Ranger’s song (Lon Adams)
L) Roustabouts’ song (Lon Adams)
52310 R) Old King Cole(Green Grass)**
L) Old King Cole(Pipe O’brien)
52347 R) Meditation (Frank Lucas)**
L) Branch Brook Park march (Frank Lucas)
52384 R) The bum song (Eddie Kirk)**
L) Hallelujah I’m a Bum (Eddie Kirk)
52472 R) The Bum Song No. 2(Vernon Dalhart) **
L) The Big Rock Candy Mountains (Vernon Dalhart)
52555 R) Gold and Silver Waltz (Edison Concert Orchestr) Break on outer edge(not music portion)**
L) Missing Label

A few questions. What is 52555 L) missing label. The S-19 has a darker stained top on the lid with a groove on the outer edge. I'm guessing it's been refinished and or a replaced since I have read nothing about a darker stain/groove on the lid. Not original cloth is about the worst thing I see so far.Oh and thanks for allowing me to praddle on about my phonograph addiction. When I speak to "the others" about phonos, they just roll their eyes. They just don't understand........Now, time to clean out that room.

Re: Edison S-19 new disc find and praddling on thought proce

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 11:35 pm
by CDBPDX
You have made a fine score! I would definitely listen to the 2 BUM SONGS first. I have a large collection of bum/hobo songs and do not have these. Lucky guy!

The S-19 is a good acquisition, too.

Congratulations on finding a stash of 52000 series Diamond Discs! I believe the first electrically recorded was # 52089. Those are quite hard to find.

The L side of 53555 is SLEEPING BEAUTY by Concert Orchestra.

Cliff

Re: Edison S-19 new disc find and praddling on thought proce

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 11:36 pm
by alang
Congrats to your new fix. And some nice records included as well. 52555-L is listed in the database as "SLEEPING BEAUTY (Pjotr I. Chajkovskij): Valse", Artist "Concert (O)" (the same as 52555-R). Hope that helps.

Andreas

Re: Edison S-19 new disc find and praddling on thought proce

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 11:43 pm
by larryh
I have a S19 in a medium oak waxed look. It can sound very good in the right location. It doesn't have the depth the 250 horns have but for a small machine its impressive anyway.

Larry H

Re: Edison S-19 new disc find and praddling on thought proce

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 11:55 pm
by DGPros
Thanks for the info on missing title. The only song I new about was Big Rock Candy Mountain. I was excited to find that one. Most of the discs look brand new with slight wear on labels if anything. I need to adjust the reproducer on the S-19. Seems to be riding a bit high which causes it to miss some notes. I have done a cursory listen but hope to spend some time this weekend with it.

Re: Edison S-19 new disc find and praddling on thought proce

Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 8:16 am
by FloridaClay
All but the first two of the 52,000s you have on the list are electrically recorded and electrically recorded discs in decent condition have an enhanced value. (Info I have is that electrics start with 52,089.) And the first one is nice to have even though not electric.

Clay