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Unusual "Hornless" Phonograph
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:08 pm
by drboruff
I recently acquired this unusual table top phonograph by the H. Schroder Hornless Phonograph Mfg Co. Very interesting in that it does actually have a small (7") horn under the lid pointing towards the back with a reflex type sound board. With a patent date of Feb 1907, it was very early in the evolution of inside horn machines. Has anyone seen a similiar machine or have any information on the manufacturer?
Thanks,
David
Re: Unusual "Hornless" Phonograph
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:18 pm
by gramophone78
Very cool looking table model. I hope someone has more info. I like it...

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Re: Unusual "Hornless" Phonograph
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:00 pm
by larryh
Similar tone arms are found on some late portable phonographs as well with matching reflective lid.
Re: Unusual "Hornless" Phonograph
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:02 pm
by Talkophone
David,
Really very very nice rare phonograph. Hope someone has some information on it.
Larry
Re: Unusual "Hornless" Phonograph
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:19 pm
by Roaring20s
Re: Unusual "Hornless" Phonograph
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:49 pm
by NEFaurora
Never seen that one before..! Interesting!
It just "spits" the sound out the back of the unit.

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Tony K.
Edison Collector/Restorer
Re: Unusual "Hornless" Phonograph
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:16 am
by brianu
nice machine. did you by any chance pick this up within the past few months through an auction in florida?
I ask because I've never seen one before, except in that auction... so if yours is from somewhere else, that would mean that there are at least two of these floating around.
Re: Unusual "Hornless" Phonograph
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:37 pm
by Curt A
The principle is the same as a Victrola 50, where the case becomes the "horn". I also have an "Arionola", which reflects sound from the back of the cabinet instead of a horn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmlmW_uBtWU
Re: Unusual "Hornless" Phonograph
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:22 pm
by Silvertone
There is some information on the company in The Talking Machine World. Here are a few items below. Schroder has a number of patents mentioned in the publication, but I didn't find any ads with illustrations of models.
Re: Unusual "Hornless" Phonograph
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:36 pm
by Edisone
Here's a cylinder version, designed by Frank Dyer & based on a Peter Weber design for Edison-type machines: