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The Realism of Early Records

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:03 am
by winsleydale
As I digitize records, I keep finding cool stuff - hence my frequent posting lately. This time, it's another little quirk at the end of the record. This is 19987, Happy-Go-Lucky Days b/b Kinky Kids' Parade. On both sides, you can faintly hear one of the sisters speaking away from the horn after the song ends. On both sides, the words seem to be identical - "You got it, right?" She is probably talking to the guy running the record lathe. So cool, and so very... real. I've attached the instance from Happy Go Lucky Days.
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Re: The Realism of Early Records

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:12 am
by edisonphonoworks
Acoustic recording is pretty interesting. I have been experimenting with the studio recorder, and someone will talk over 10 feet away in a normal volume, and you can hear them in the background. I have done silly test like take some coins and rattle them in front of the horn and it recorded that, bumping the horn, what is fun is to use a drum stick and tap on the horn, that is loudly recorded, The studio recorder even recorded the motor rumble, so I had to isolate the motor better from the topworks to solve that. You can hear her off saying (did you get that) on the recording. I don't think you cold hear that with a horn on the acoustic phonograph, so that is probably why it was let go. I have a brown wax cylinder, where you can hear them clicking the phonographs off in the room after the song was over, you hear 3 clicks.

Re: The Realism of Early Records

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:49 am
by winsleydale
edisonphonoworks wrote:Acoustic recording is pretty interesting. I have been experimenting with the studio recorder, and someone will talk over 10 feet away in a normal volume, and you can hear them in the background. I have done silly test like take some coins and rattle them in front of the horn and it recorded that, bumping the horn, what is fun is to use a drum stick and tap on the horn, that is loudly recorded, The studio recorder even recorded the motor rumble, so I had to isolate the motor better from the topworks to solve that. You can hear her off saying (did you get that) on the recording. I don't think you cold hear that with a horn on the acoustic phonograph, so that is probably why it was let go. I have a brown wax cylinder, where you can hear them clicking the phonographs off in the room after the song was over, you hear 3 clicks.
What you say is mostly true. The reason I find this so particularly interesting is that this record is an early electric record from 1926; the little bit at the end can be heard even with acoustic playback (if one is listening for it; it's not very loud).

Re: The Realism of Early Records

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:01 am
by barnettrp21122
Actually, "You got it, right?" (or "Is that alright?") was a signature sign-off used by The Duncan Sisters in other recordings. "I Never Had A Mammy" was one IIRC.
Bob

Re: The Realism of Early Records

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:17 am
by winsleydale
barnettrp21122 wrote:Actually, "You got it, right?" (or "Is that alright?") was a signature sign-off used by The Duncan Sisters in other recordings. "I Never Had A Mammy" was one IIRC.
Bob
Never knew that. Very interesting!

Re: The Realism of Early Records

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:05 pm
by howardpgh
I have a record of a preacher giving a sermon (Burnett or Gates not sure) on a Columbia, you can hear traffic noises near the end as if someone opened an outside door to the studio. You hear the general noise of the traffic and an occasional Aooogah horn.

Re: The Realism of Early Records

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:09 pm
by howardpgh
Has anyone heard what sounds like cue tones at the beginning of some Orthophonics. Its two low pitched hums or buzzes befor the music starts.

Re: The Realism of Early Records

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:29 pm
by tinovanderzwan
edisonphonoworks wrote:Acoustic recording is pretty interesting. I have been experimenting with the studio recorder, and someone will talk over 10 feet away in a normal volume, and you can hear them in the background. I have done silly test like take some coins and rattle them in front of the horn and it recorded that, bumping the horn, what is fun is to use a drum stick and tap on the horn, that is loudly recorded, The studio recorder even recorded the motor rumble, so I had to isolate the motor better from the topworks to solve that. You can hear her off saying (did you get that) on the recording. I don't think you cold hear that with a horn on the acoustic phonograph, so that is probably why it was let go. I have a brown wax cylinder, where you can hear them clicking the phonographs off in the room after the song was over, you hear 3 clicks.

i hear her say ''rang a bell?'' just after some bell ringing...makes sense to me!


tino

Re: The Realism of Early Records

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:28 pm
by estott
on Victor records it is pretty common to hear some faint taps before the musicians start playing - on electrics you sometimes here a very faint buzzer.