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Victor needle box???
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:56 am
by fmblizz
Picked this up recently but can not find any thing similar in any reference books. Any idea if this was just a "Home Made" needle box. Nicely done and appears to have some age.. Also appears to be made of maybe spruce and assembled with brads. The Victor logo is imprinted or burnt into the sliding lid.
Neat little item for a horn machine.
Blizz
Re: Victor needle box???
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:37 pm
by Phonofreak
I think it is home made. If this was factory made, there wouldn't be rough edges all around it. When you look at the part that slides, you can see the rough edges. If Victor did make something like this, it would be smoothed and more refined.
Harvey Kravitz
Re: Victor needle box???
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 2:19 pm
by fmblizz
I agree Harvey but for $10. I couldn't pass it up.
I'm hoping others will weigh in on this little box.
Goes nice with my Vic D.
blizz
Re: Victor needle box???
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:46 pm
by Phonofreak
For $10.00 I would have bought it, too. It's still a cool little box.
Harvey Kravitz
Re: Victor needle box???
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:57 pm
by De Soto Frank
It may be "rustic" in its execution, but a better job than I could do, I think....
I'm impressed with the "Victor" logo...

Re: Victor needle box???
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:28 am
by fmblizz
Yep the Victor logo sucked me right in LOL. Somebody had a steady hand.
blizz
Re: Victor needle box???
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:40 am
by EarlH
That 'Victor' name was used by more than one outfit. There was a Victor piano company as well, but the examples of their work that I've seen have been pretty cheap looking. I have a Victor letter opener around here somewhere too, but it's advertising inner-tubes for bicycles it seems like. Someone was clever about how they made the little box though.
Re: Victor needle box???
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:56 am
by Henry
The bike tire reference jogged my memory. A brief google search turned this up:
http://www.oldbike.eu/museum/wp-content ... tor_05.jpg
Check out the style of the capital "V" on the tag and on the box; they're practically identical.
Here's a link to the main page of that site:
http://www.oldbike.eu/museum/bikes-1800 ... tor-flyer/
As you scroll down the site, note especially all the advertising copy!
IMO, you've got a bicycle item there. Still a neat object, and I have no idea what its purpose was.
P.S. While we're at it, speaking of phonograph names in the bike world, don't forget that there were Columbia bicycles, too! I happen to own one, as does the wife, a matching pair made in the late 1960s, with Sturmey-Archer three-speed hubs and side-pull caliper brakes. But
that Columbia didn't make phonographs, either!
Re: Victor needle box???
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:16 pm
by tomwil
Henry wrote:
IMO, you've got a bicycle item there.
I disagree. Although the box appears homemade, the emblem resembles a Victor Victrola trademark.

Re: Victor needle box???
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:39 pm
by Henry
Could be. But the Victor bicycle name antedates the Victor phonograph trademark. The following is from
http://www.davidsarnoff.org/vtm.html, chapter four:
The name "Victor" was first used as a brand name in December of 1900, and was registered in Washington on March 12, 1901 (Ctf. #36676). Mr. Leon Forrest Douglas was in charge of the company's advertising, sales, and recording at that time, and, although there is some contradiction, it is reported that "Victor" was derived from Mrs. Douglass' name, Victoria (Fig. 13). The name had originally been suggested as a name for the company itself, but this was postponed until its validity had been tested.
The ads in the link I posted (
http://www.oldbike.eu/museum/bikes-1800 ... tor-flyer/) date from the 1890s. If we knew definitively the function of fmblizz's box, it would sure help!