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This phonograph puzzles me - I´ve never seen that type of box - and no decals. Can it be the machine is fitted in a very well-home made box? The crank looks a bit like it came from a gramophone. Would it be a 2-minute machine? What say you about the horn - could it be proper for this model -? I like it but is it a Frankograph?

Thankful for any views...

That is an Edison "Standard" - Model A (4 latch "suitcase") Phonograph, and looks pretty typical (from a quick glance) except for the incorrect crank and the missing handle on the lid. The reproducer is a side arm Model "C", which would be appropriate, and the horn looks original for the period as well.

Martin Kauper wrote an incredible article on the "Standard" model featured on the Antique Phonograph Society website here: http://www.antiquephono.org/spotters-gu ... honograph/

Best,
Fran

The horn appears to be a reproduction and the crank is clearly not correct.

gramophone78 wrote:The horn appears to be a reproduction and the crank is clearly not correct.

Do you think so? It looks to me like an early all brass horn that someone painted black at some point. I wonder if the dimensions of it are available?

Best,
Fran

Cant get the dimensions - not right now anyway - thanks for all the input, that article was really well written! The most common Edison phonograph!

Snal

Snal

Although the Standard Edison phonograph was very common and often seen at a wide variety of auctions, this version is rarer and in nice shape, is sought after by most Edison collectors to have in their collection.

This version was produced from 1900 to 1901 (ref: George FROW)

The only earlier Edison is a "two clip" version which was replaced by the "four clip" version as two clips were not strong enough to carry the phonograph. That is one of those don't do this at home things - carrying a phonograph with the carrying handle as they can pop out causing damage to the lids.

If you are thinking of buying this one I would go for it if the price is fair as all you really need is the correct crank, which you can pick up for under $ 100 on ebay. By the way I would look inside to see what modifications they made to make this crank fit. They may have welded a slot (female) end on the crank or it may just be propped in for the photos. This would be a good thing as you will not need to repair any modifications.

Good luck

Bruce

fran604g wrote:

gramophone78 wrote:The horn appears to be a reproduction and the crank is clearly not correct.

Do you think so? It looks to me like an early all brass horn that someone painted black at some point. I wonder if the dimensions of it are available?

Best,
Fran

The horn is one of the poorer reproductions out there. You can see the spin marks on the bell. The small end looks to have a brass tube soldered on. The machine is missing the case handle and shaving device.

Andersun wrote:

fran604g wrote:

gramophone78 wrote:The horn appears to be a reproduction and the crank is clearly not correct.

Do you think so? It looks to me like an early all brass horn that someone painted black at some point. I wonder if the dimensions of it are available?

Best,
Fran

The horn is one of the poorer reproductions out there. You can see the spin marks on the bell. The small end looks to have a brass tube soldered on. The machine is missing the case handle and shaving device.

Thank you both for pointing that out to me!

Best,
Fran

Yep,

It's

Edison "Standard" - Model A "suitcase" alright...

)

Tony K.

Edison Collector/Restorer

Where did the other 3 images go?

There was a better close-up of the horn seams and small end.

Being that the original horns used a straight tube type of piece soldered to the cone, it would be nice to have the previous images for illustrative purposes.

Fran