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Victrola motor

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:26 am
by Sohny
Somebody know something about this motor I found in an old Victrola VV-XI?
I've never seen this kind of motor before...

Re: Victrola motor

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 6:36 am
by snallast
Looks like a pretty standard Victor workhorse motor to me... they´re great! But maybe the metal plate it´s fastened onto is of more recent design? Using up older parts at Victor, the box looks like it would have had an older type of motor with the cast-iron metal plate that would fit the same round area on the box...? It could be a very well-made motor change.

Re: Victrola motor

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:05 am
by phonogfp
The motor looks like a type 7J as shown in this article:

http://www.antiquephono.org/victorvictr ... ld-braker/

George P.

Re: Victrola motor

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:30 pm
by Victrolacollector
That is a very interesting question. I also have this same motor in my Victor XI table model. It is a workhorse motor but did not think they used these in VV-XI table models? There are no additional holes in the side of the case everything lines up.

Is yours a tabletop or floor model?

Re: Victrola motor

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 2:29 pm
by Sohny
My VV-XI is a floor model, made in Berliner gramophone company of Montreal in 1913. That's a canadian model.
It looks to be all authentical.....

Re: Victrola motor

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 2:31 pm
by Sohny
phonogfp wrote:The motor looks like a type 7J as shown in this article:

http://www.antiquephono.org/victorvictr ... ld-braker/

George P.

Yes George, look at the number 3

Re: Victrola motor

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:40 pm
by phonogfp
Sohny wrote:
phonogfp wrote:The motor looks like a type 7J as shown in this article:

http://www.antiquephono.org/victorvictr ... ld-braker/

George P.

Yes George, look at the number 3
Yes, but No.3 has the winding shaft on the same side as the mainsprings & governor. No.7J has the winding shaft on the opposite side, as shown in your photo. The motor is described just above where the photo of 7J is shown. :)

George P.

Re: Victrola motor

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 4:23 pm
by Jerry B.
That motor was a continuation of the Victor III & IV motor and was used in many of the early Victrolas. Because of a lack of space, many Victrola motors literally sat in the open topped horns. Mounting the motor up against a thin metal plate saved about .75" of an inch. This may not seem like much but it allowed more space to close the top of the horn and improve the performance of the Victrola. Jerry

Re: Victrola motor

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 6:35 pm
by Sohny
Jerry B. wrote:That motor was a continuation of the Victor III & IV motor and was used in many of the early Victrolas. Because of a lack of space, many Victrola motors literally sat in the open topped horns. Mounting the motor up against a thin metal plate saved about .75" of an inch. This may not seem like much but it allowed more space to close the top of the horn and improve the performance of the Victrola. Jerry
The internal horn is different, too. There's a place for the motor.

Re: Victrola motor

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:48 pm
by Sohny
phonogfp wrote:The motor looks like a type 7J as shown in this article:

http://www.antiquephono.org/victorvictr ... ld-braker/

George P.
Totally George!