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Edison H-19's: Nickel Plated, Gold Plated, or both?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:44 am
by fran604g
Hi folks,

In reply to an earlier post in eBay & Craigslist Alert forum (an H 19 in the UK with LP gearing installed, here: http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... 14&t=24670), I noticed the H 19 listed had all gold plated hardware throughout. I quickly consulted my Frow guide, and he states that they were assembled with NICKEL plated parts.

I was thinking perhaps the UK eBay listed H 19 was an oddity, but later this morning I came across an H 19 listed on Craigslist in Charlotte NC; ALSO with gold plated hardware.

Perhaps this specific H 19 description in Frow's is incorrect?

The question begs to be asked: was the gold plating specific to the earlier version of the model fitted with the "fluers-de-lis" grille, and then changed to less expensive nickel plated components with the advent of the less ornate (and seemingly more common) "shield" type grille?

Neither machine has their grilles present; this might suggest (to me at least) the grilles were indeed the more delicate and easily destroyed "fluers-de-lis" type.

Thanks for your help,
Fran

An image of the UK H 19:
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An image of the Charlotte H 19:
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Re: Edison H-19's: Nickel Plated, Gold Plated, or both?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:04 pm
by Valecnik
Years ago i also had a Hepplewhite, oak case, fluers-de-lis grill and gold hardware. In fact, I'm not sure I've seen a nickel one.

Re: Edison H-19's: Nickel Plated, Gold Plated, or both?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:47 pm
by phonogfp
I have 3 H-19s in the "bone yard," and they all have gold hardware. (One in mahogany, 2 in oak.)

George P.

Re: Edison H-19's: Nickel Plated, Gold Plated, or both?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:08 pm
by Valecnik
phonogfp wrote:I have 3 H-19s in the "bone yard," and they all have gold hardware. (One in mahogany, 2 in oak.)

George P.
Sounds like there's an inaccuracy on the Frow book on this point then.

Re: Edison H-19's: Nickel Plated, Gold Plated, or both?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:12 pm
by fran604g
Valecnik wrote:Years ago i also had a Hepplewhite, oak case, fluers-de-lis grill and gold hardware. In fact, I'm not sure I've seen a nickel one.
phonogfp wrote:I have 3 H-19s in the "bone yard," and they all have gold hardware. (One in mahogany, 2 in oak.)
George P.
Thank you, gentlemen!

I've read, and reread his description to be sure it isn't just me misunderstanding. It would appear that Frow was wrong in this case. :shock:

Best,
Fran

Re: Edison H-19's: Nickel Plated, Gold Plated, or both?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:23 pm
by phonogfp
Well, for all its virtues, it's not the first time an inaccuracy has been seen in Frow's work. Even a 98% record of accuracy (an arbitrary number on my part) means that 2% of the work is in error.

It's always a good idea to read anyone's work with a open mind. Just because it's in print doesn't necessarily mean it's true (except on the Internet, of course!). ;)

George P.

Re: Edison H-19's: Nickel Plated, Gold Plated, or both?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:39 pm
by TinfoilPhono
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Re: Edison H-19's: Nickel Plated, Gold Plated, or both?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:49 pm
by fran604g
phonogfp wrote:Well, for all its virtues, it's not the first time an inaccuracy has been seen in Frow's work. Even a 98% record of accuracy (an arbitrary number on my part) means that 2% of the work is in error.

It's always a good idea to read anyone's work with a open mind. Just because it's in print doesn't necessarily mean it's true (except on the Internet, of course!). ;)

George P.
Word!

Hence my signature. (Speaking only for myself, of course) ;)

Re: Edison H-19's: Nickel Plated, Gold Plated, or both?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:49 pm
by winsleydale
Mine is also gold.

Re: Edison H-19's: Nickel Plated, Gold Plated, or both?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 5:10 pm
by De Soto Frank
I know it's a different model, but I owned an S-19 DD player (my first Edison machine!), which had gold hardware, however I believe the reproducer with it was bright nickel. Cabinet was mahogany.

To this date, it was still the best-sounding DD player I have owned, even against my two C-19 machines.