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Why are Edison Diamond Discs So Thick?

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 6:03 pm
by Dave D
As the title asks, why are those things so thick? Other hill and dale records are not.
Dave D

Re: Why are Edison Diamind Discs So Thick?

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 6:37 pm
by estott
Edison wanted stability, no warping, and they had to stand up to the weight of his playing system.

Re: Why are Edison Diamind Discs So Thick?

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:31 pm
by NEFaurora
Rather than go into majorly detailed explanations of it here..probably more than can be typed, I highly suggest that you pick up one of the Frow Diamond Disc books listed below.. They are usually around $20.00 or so. More than reasonably priced. It will tell you more than you ever wanted to know about the Diamond Disc manufacturing process and how it came to be. See weblinks below:


Edison Diamond Disc Phonographs by George L. Frow (Original Hardcover Bound version)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Edison-Disc ... SwyB9XDT4D

and

Edison Diamond Disc Phonographs by George L. Frow (Newer Updated Softcover Bound version of same book.)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-The-Edison- ... SwJkJWlBzm


:o)

Tony K.

Edison Collector/Restorer

Re: Why are Edison Diamind Discs So Thick?

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:14 pm
by Dave D
estott wrote:Edison wanted stability, no warping, and they had to stand up to the weight of his playing system.
Thanks, that is enough information for me.
Dave.

Re: Why are Edison Diamind Discs So Thick?

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:18 pm
by Dave D
NEFaurora wrote:Rather than go into majorly detailed explanations of it here..probably more than can be typed, I highly suggest that you pick up one of the Frow Diamond Disc books listed below.. They are usually around $20.00 or so. More than reasonably priced. It will tell you more than you ever wanted to know about the Diamond Disc manufacturing process and how it came to be. See weblinks below:


Edison Diamond Disc Phonographs by George L. Frow (Original Hardcover Bound version)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Edison-Disc ... SwyB9XDT4D

and

Edison Diamond Disc Phonographs by George L. Frow (Newer Updated Softcover Bound version of same book.)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-The-Edison- ... SwJkJWlBzm


:o)

Tony K.

Edison Collector/Restorer
I have the Diamond Disc book,, but I don't recall any reason for the extreme thickness of them being given. Thanks!
Dave

Re: Why are Edison Diamond Discs So Thick?

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:21 pm
by VintageTechnologies
Edison studied Pathé's records to learn what not to do. Pathé records had a tendency to skip due to broad shallow grooves. Edison went with narrower, deeper grooves. A thick record guaranteed there would be no warping, something I appreciate today! Comparing the two systems now, I'd say Edison was right.

Re: Why are Edison Diamind Discs So Thick?

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:34 am
by Wolfe
Dave D wrote:
estott wrote:Edison wanted stability, no warping, and they had to stand up to the weight of his playing system.
Thanks, that is enough information for me.
Dave.
Buy the Frow books. Stop being a mooch.

Re: Why are Edison Diamind Discs So Thick?

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:47 am
by estott
Wolfe wrote:
Dave D wrote:
estott wrote:Edison wanted stability, no warping, and they had to stand up to the weight of his playing system.
Thanks, that is enough information for me.
Dave.
Buy the Frow books. Stop being a mooch.

Putting a price on information, are we?

Re: Why are Edison Diamond Discs So Thick?

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:07 am
by Lucius1958
VintageTechnologies wrote:Edison studied Pathé's records to learn what not to do. Pathé records had a tendency to skip due to broad shallow grooves. Edison went with narrower, deeper grooves. A thick record guaranteed there would be no warping, something I appreciate today! Comparing the two systems now, I'd say Edison was right.
Except for when the discs are 'dished', and cause problems in playback, when the reproducer tops out and starts damaging the grooves...

Bill

Re: Why are Edison Diamond Discs So Thick?

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:25 am
by Dave D
VintageTechnologies wrote:Edison studied Pathé's records to learn what not to do. Pathé records had a tendency to skip due to broad shallow grooves. Edison went with narrower, deeper grooves. A thick record guaranteed there would be no warping, something I appreciate today! Comparing the two systems now, I'd say Edison was right.
That is good to know, too. Thanks for your courteous response.
Dave D