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Pathé' identification
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 6:21 pm
by rizbone
can anyone tell me anything about this machine. Am I missing tone arm parts? did it have a decal originally etc?
Re: Pathé' identification
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:17 pm
by Retrograde
Looks Chinese to me

Re: Pathé' identification
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:35 pm
by rizbone
God bless apple and it's automatic "features"

Re: Pathé' identification
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:02 am
by phonodesbois
Looks like a Pathé machine sold by Girard & co (mail order) circa 1907.
I think that the back bracket , tone arm, crank, speed control, thrower, turntable, and reproducer are correct.
You're right, the connector between the tone arm and reproducer is missing (see pic).
For the case itself, I don't know... Has it been stripped? (on the other hand, some machines sold by Girard & co did not have any decal.)
Nice machine!
Jeff
Re: Pathé' identification
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:23 am
by CarlosV
It is a French Pathé pre 1920 but the back bracket and tone arm are not Pathé. The soundbox is correct but with an adaptation for the extraneous arm. The rest seems authentic.
Re: Pathé' identification
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:13 am
by phonodesbois
I finally found a Girard &co 1908 ad for this gramophone...
No decal but a rubber connector rather than the usual Pathé one.
Jeff
Re: Pathé' identification
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:05 pm
by CarlosV
I stand corrected, the whole machine looks authentic. Thanks for posting the advertisement, it adds to the knowledge base of Pathé.
Re: Pathé' identification
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:45 am
by rizbone
Thanks a lot for the information! It has definitely been stripped and it appears all the screws were replaced with zinc ones at some point. Now I just need to add the horn and elbow to the hunt list.

Re: Pathé' identification
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:49 pm
by CarlosV
The horn and elbow are pretty easy to find in the French ebay, if you want to pay the shipping cost. Every week there is one or two for sale, ones with original paint in good shape are rarer but if you are patient you can find one.