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What will they think of next.
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:57 pm
by Panatropia
Re: What will they think of next.
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 8:46 pm
by TinfoilPhono
For posterity, since the ebay listing will be gone in a month.
Offered here is one of the finest example of this vintage 'Talking Machine' for sale anywhere. This external Horn Victrola VIC II 40944 is in amazing condition considering it is ~110 years old. The Victor II started out as the "Victor E" model in 1901, until around 1905 when the tapered arm was first used, but there was some overlap in production with the E Model series. Selling for $30.00, it featured a single-spring motor, a brass horn, and a tapered tonearm (after 1905). The cabinet was made of oak, somewhat larger than the Victor I. The Victor I was produced up until the early 1920's, by which time the price had been raised to $37.50 ($1000 in today's $). Approximately 125,000 of these
phonographs were produced. At present, there is not a good correlation between serial number and production date for this model. The model for sale here has the optional "flower" horn. This horn was likely a custom made piece when the player was purchased.& The owner would have commissioned an artist to paint the horn to thier vision. This piece was acquired from an estate sale of a wealthy "old money" Philadelphia family. This is a one of a kind piece and a rare opportunity to own a piece of history.
(Emphasis added.)
Such a bargain at $3,390 - Buy It Now.
Re: What will they think of next.
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 9:14 pm
by Panatropia
I was unaware of the many important particulars this fellow brings up in relation to manufacturing and marketing. I should call Dilg and tell him.
Re: What will they think of next.
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:35 am
by Curt A
This horn was likely a custom made piece when the player was purchased.& The owner would have commissioned an artist to paint the horn to thier vision. This is a one of a kind piece and a rare opportunity to own a piece of history.
This is definitely a "one of a kind" - thank God no one else thought to do this...
Regarding the seller's description, I think W.C. Fields nailed it: “If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullsh**.”
Re: What will they think of next.
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:16 pm
by cweastlick
The seller got this off of EBTH.com for $360. These are even the same pictures from the site. I don't know why anyone paid that much for it in the first place. Talk about a profit!!
BTW this came from Texas and not Philadelphia.
Re: What will they think of next.
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 8:21 pm
by jboger
We should add plagiarism to this fellow's list of accomplishments. From the Victor Victrola website (
http://www.victor-victrola.com/Victor%20II.htm)
"The Victor II started out as the "Victor E" model in 1901, and then was transitioned to Victor II nomenclature around 1905 when the tapered arm was first used, but there was some overlap in production with the E Model series. Selling for $30.00, it featured a single-spring motor, a brass horn, and a tapered tonearm (after 1905). The cabinet was made of oak, somewhat larger than the Victor I. The Victor I was produced up until the early 1920's, by which time the price had been raised to $37.50. Approximately 125,000 of these phonographs were produced. At present, there is not a good correlation between serial number and production date for this model. Example at right has the optional "flower" horn."
Compare that with the text in eBay.
Re: What will they think of next.
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 3:37 am
by Panatropia
I am shocked nobody has mentioned the super rare Orthophonic Attachment. Which explains the extra wide motor board. A truly scare factory upgrade.
Re: What will they think of next.
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:40 pm
by Victrolacollector
This borders fraud and is definitely misrepresentation, "caveat emptor" does not apply here. Sellers should not make these claims if they are not valid, especially using material from the Victor Victrola site.
Sadly, if someone wants a real Victor, they are not cheap and can be had for as much as this frankenphone. Imagine the person buying it thinking its genuine, and its not.
Re: What will they think of next.
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:59 pm
by Panatropia
I agree.
However he's still up to his tricks......