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				WANTED: Black Leather Phonograph Horn Elbow
				Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:15 pm
				by vic-b
				Looking for a black leather elbow for an early phonograph horn. Please PM me if you can help!? Send pictures please. Better quality is desirable, but I will look at anything. I am trying to upgrade from what I have, which is pretty marginal. I don't want it to be falling apart and missing all it's stitching!
Thanks,
Jeff
Wisconsin
			 
			
					
				Re: WANTED: Black Leather Phonograph Horn Elbow
				Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:37 pm
				by Phonofreak
				Jeff, I'm sure you are looking for an original. To tide you over, I would get a  repro  one from Justin Schaub, JAS antiques. His are spot on. I would get one of those and save the original one for historical purposes, until a good original one shows up.
Harvey Kravitz
			 
			
					
				Re: WANTED: Black Leather Phonograph Horn Elbow
				Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:33 am
				by gramophone78
				
			 
			
					
				Re: WANTED: Black Leather Phonograph Horn Elbow
				Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:39 am
				by vic-b
				Thanks guys! I have an elbow, just looking for a better one. I cannot convince my local shoe repair guy to soak mine in Lexsol and restitch it by hand. He is afraid it will fall apart. I may just try it myself. It can't get any worse that it is already!!!
			 
			
					
				Re: WANTED: Black Leather Phonograph Horn Elbow
				Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:29 am
				by zonophpones7
				Jeff,
I have had good luck repairing split elbows using "zepher skin".  It is a very thin leather made from animal intestines and used mostly commonly to rebuild bellows for antique Bird Boxes and Cuckoo Clocks.  I cut an approximately ½- ¾ inch strip of the material.  Using hide glue, which will dissolve in water if you want to reverse it, I place a small bead of glue in the split seam and also to one side of the zepher skin. I then place the seam back together and apply the zepher skin on the inside of the elbow overlapping both sides of the seam. wipe excess glue using a damp paper towel.  I then place a piece of wax paper over the horn it fits on, slide it in place and clamp it in place with rubber bands.  The next day is is a good stable elbow again and it presents well. The seam is tight and you don't notice the repair.   I use Aniline dye to color the zepher skin to match the color of the elbow. I then secure the elbow to the horn using Rubber Cement, which is not permanent but keeps the elbow securely in place until you want to remove it. 
I hope this is of some use... 
Gregg
			 
			
					
				Re: WANTED: Black Leather Phonograph Horn Elbow
				Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:29 pm
				by vic-b
				Gregg,
Good to hear from you my friend! Great times at the Union show. Leave it to you to have a "go to" solution that is reversible, reliable, and not obviously noticeable!!
Best!
Jeff
Wisconsin