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7" Victor Recorded in Japan c.1907 LISTEN

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:06 pm
by CDBPDX
Just got my first 7" Victor with imported recording, recorded in Japan. Has the 'puppy' logo. Cool!

Now you can see and hear this record play on YouTube at:

https://youtu.be/bB3AgE946kA

Enjoy!

Cliff

Re: 7" Victor Recorded in Japan c.1907

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 7:35 pm
by EdiBrunsVic
Nice! I hope to acquire at least one seven inch Victor Record sometime.

Re: 7" Victor Recorded in Japan c.1907

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 1:04 am
by CDBPDX
Further research has revealed that this is a 1907 pressing of a recording originally issued in 1904 as catalog number 6001 by Gramophone and Typewriter, LTD, and here renumbered as Victor Record 10001.

Neat! Cliff

Re: 7" Victor Recorded in Japan c.1907

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:17 am
by Wolfe
Probably recorded by Fred Gaisberg on one of his early recording trips for the Gramophone Co.

Re: 7" Victor Recorded in Japan c.1907 LISTEN

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:34 am
by recordo
Wish my 7" Victors sounded as good! Thanks for posting this...I love early Japanese and Chinese recordings.

Re: 7" Victor Recorded in Japan c.1907

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:57 am
by Starkton
CDBPDX wrote:recording originally issued in 1904 as catalog number 6001 by Gramophone and Typewriter, LTD
May I ask for the source of this information? Following my files this was one of 79 recordings taken by Will Gaisberg in Osaka and Kyoto in November 1906. The shells were forwarded to Victor in January 1907. There were no G&T pressings as far as I know.

Here is one of the legendary discs taken by Fred Gaisberg during his first recording tour to the Far East in 1902-03. Mx. E 1467 was recorded with a very slow speed of 60 rpm on February 13, 1903 in Tokyo, pressed in Hanover and issued on 7" G&T 13278. A Geisha, playing the Samisen, is the quintessential Japanese recording.

Re: 7" Victor Recorded in Japan c.1907 LISTEN

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:50 am
by gramophone78
I have a 7" G&T Burmese recording (first pressing) that was made during Gaisberg's second Asian recording tour in 1903.

Stephan, do you happen to know the exact date of his second trip please..?.

https://youtu.be/oY1eypRfNnA

Title: "Sad Songs"
Sung by: Maung Sein Hla
Recorded at: City of Yangon (Rangoon) Burma
1903 7 inch G&T Burmese Record.jpg
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Re: 7" Victor Recorded in Japan c.1907 LISTEN

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:39 am
by Starkton
gramophone78 wrote:I have a 7" G&T Burmese recording (first pressing) that was made during Gaisberg's second Asian recording tour in 1903.

Stephan, do you happen to know the exact date of his second trip please..?.
This was taken in Rangoon (Yangon) at the last stop of Fred Gaisberg's first Asian tour which ended in June 1903. What gave you the idea of a second Asian tour in 1903?

Re: 7" Victor Recorded in Japan c.1907 LISTEN

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:36 pm
by gramophone78
Starkton wrote:
gramophone78 wrote:I have a 7" G&T Burmese recording (first pressing) that was made during Gaisberg's second Asian recording tour in 1903.

Stephan, do you happen to know the exact date of his second trip please..?.
This was taken in Rangoon (Yangon) at the last stop of Fred Gaisberg's first Asian tour which ended in June 1903. What gave you the idea of a second Asian tour in 1903?
If I recall correctly, a large UK collector informed me this was from his second Asian tour. I have had it for years now and can't recall who it was... :oops:

Re: 7" Victor Recorded in Japan c.1907 LISTEN

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:21 pm
by Starkton
gramophone78 wrote:a large UK collector informed me this was from his second Asian tour
Either the large collector was misinformed, or you understood him wrong.

There are three mistakes in your video description (my highlighting):
"It is known that Will Gaisberg was traveling all over the world trying to capture different languages.This is one of those recordings made on his second tour and near the end of that tour around August of 1903."

1. First of all you must know that there are two brothers Gaisberg. Both recorded and should not be confused: Fred William "F. W." Gaisberg and William "Will" Conrad Gaisberg, named after their father Wilhelm (William) Gaisberg, born in Wuerttemberg, Germany.

2. It was Fred Gaisberg's first recording tour to the Far East.

3. Fred made his last recordings (including your disc) in June 1903. It took him about six weeks to return to London, where he arrived on August 5, 1903. Obviously these data were muddled.