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cygnet crane what goes to which ???? standard and home??

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:50 am
by tomb
I was trying to mount a couple of cygnet horns and they do not quiet look right. I am mounting cygnets on three standards and one home. One of the standards carriage is angled and all the rest are lying flat. What goes to angled, what goes to flat and is there a difference between home and standard. cranes ??? Tom B

Re: cygnet crane what goes to which ???? standard and home?

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 11:42 am
by FellowCollector
Edison Standard and Home models should accept the same size cygnet crane. Edison Triumphs use a slightly taller cygnet crane. Now...any of the aforementioned models with a horizontal carriage will require the bottom and top sections of the appropriate crane to have a greater bend to allow for clearance of the cygnet horn elbow. Any of the aforementioned models with the angled carriage will use a cygnet crane appropriate for that model with a less severe bend in the bottom and top sections.

Doug

Re: cygnet crane what goes to which ???? standard and home?

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:40 pm
by tomb
Thanks Doug. I brought a couple on E bay and I need to see is the bottom and top got mixed up. I put a couple side by side and they seemed different but that may be because of the horizontal and angled set ups Tom B

Re: cygnet crane what goes to which ???? standard and home?

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:33 pm
by FellowCollector
tomb wrote:Thanks Doug.
You're very welcome. Place the bottom sections of the cygnet cranes that you have side by side and you will know quickly which is for the horizontal carriage and which is for the angled carriage. The crane bottom intended for the horizontal carriage will have a noticeably greater bend than those used on angled carriages. Once you have the correct crane with the correct carriage then it's a simple matter of adjusting the height of the horn. What you want to do is assure that the weight of the horn is suspended over the reproducer just right so that there is little or no horn weight on the reproducer. Suspend the horn on its crane with the horn in neutral position (straight up and down) directly over the reproducer without the rubber hose first. Adjust the round knurled nut at the crane top so that the end of the horn is suspended just about ¼ to ½ inch above the top of reproducer throat. Cut a section of rubber hose (Ron Sitko carries the best I've used) that will cover the horn end and the reproducer throat adequately. Put your rubber hose section on the end of the horn and make any fine tuning of the horn height so that the bottom of the hose just slightly touches the top of the reproducer body with the rubber hose around the reproducer throat. Again, ideally you want very little or no horn weight on the reproducer. Move the reproducer side to side across the straight edge and watch the cygnet horn move. It should move freely and easily without lifting the reproducer or pushing downward on the reproducer at all. You probably already know all of this but for those who don't hopefully this will help. Have fun.

Doug

Re: cygnet crane what goes to which ???? standard and home?

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:17 pm
by tomb
Thanks for the information. That is not in Flows and will be helpful. Will post a pic tomorrow to show you I will check the cranes. Tom B

Re: cygnet crane what goes to which ???? standard and home?

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:19 pm
by tomb
Here are some pics of the cranes. The clearance on one is close but works. I have used a reproduction on the oak horn to get good clearance . How much should be in the back of the horn??? Should it barely clear as long as it does not hit is that acceptable or should it have an inch clearance???. I would like to use stock cranes on the machines... Tom B