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Anyone know what model this Brunswick table top is? He also has a oak upright
I may take a peek since he is close, but not at that price........

Bill K

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Bob

Should work now thanks

A quick look through the Wakeman Brunswick book (available online at the APS site) shows no table top model with that grill. Perhaps best to contact the seller.

The machine shown is a single head Ultona. You may want to consider holding out to find one with a double head reproducer. The double head version has a head devoted to Edison Diamond Discs and uses a stylus similar to the Diamond Disc reproducer stylus. The single head version relies on a separate Edison "point". I have yet to see one of these "points" that didn't mark records.

Thanks. I agree, for some reason the grille just does not look right on this machine. I'll get in touch with him again and see I can squeeze the model numbers out of him. Appreciate the info on the double head reproducer. Cheers

Bill K

I could be wrong but the brunswick I have usually seen have much finer scroll to the grills, so it would seem this may be a latter addition?

52089 wrote:A quick look through the Wakeman Brunswick book (available online at the APS site) shows no table top model with that grill. Perhaps best to contact the seller.

The machine shown is a single head Ultona. You may want to consider holding out to find one with a double head reproducer. The double head version has a head devoted to Edison Diamond Discs and uses a stylus similar to the Diamond Disc reproducer stylus. The single head version relies on a separate Edison "point". I have yet to see one of these "points" that didn't mark records.

The needle on the single head Brunswick is not for Edison discs, it is to play vertical Pathé's or similar vertical cuts like early Okeh's. That's why it marks Edison discs when it plays them.

CarlosV wrote:

52089 wrote:A quick look through the Wakeman Brunswick book (available online at the APS site) shows no table top model with that grill. Perhaps best to contact the seller.

The machine shown is a single head Ultona. You may want to consider holding out to find one with a double head reproducer. The double head version has a head devoted to Edison Diamond Discs and uses a stylus similar to the Diamond Disc reproducer stylus. The single head version relies on a separate Edison "point". I have yet to see one of these "points" that didn't mark records.

The needle on the single head Brunswick is not for Edison discs, it is to play vertical Pathé's or similar vertical cuts like early Okeh's. That's why it marks Edison discs when it plays them.

Actually, both the ball type stylus (for Pathé' etc.) and a pointed diamond stylus (for Diamond Discs) were available. I have had a few of each. As noted, the Edison ones are not recommended.

Here's a relevant thread, with photo:
http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... int+ultona

I think it's possible that the Brunswick arm has been installed in an off-brand phonograph whose original, pot metal arm crumbled. Hard to tell, but I don't see the Brunswick logo on the rear panel of the lid where I'd expect it to be.

JerryVan wrote:I think it's possible that the Brunswick arm has been installed in an off-brand phonograph whose original, pot metal arm crumbled. Hard to tell, but I don't see the Brunswick logo on the rear panel of the lid where I'd expect it to be.

Yep too much spooky about this machine. I thought maybe the grill was replaced with a homebrew but your view seems much more plausible. Passing on this whatever it was/is. Thanks