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BIX on an Edison Cylinder?

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:33 pm
by billybob62
Since Norman is going to put Barnacle Bill on a 6 inch cylinder, how many here would buy Bix At the Jazz Band Ball and/or, say, Copenhagen on an Edison cylinder.I'll take two, please. :o

Re: BIX on an Edison Cylinder?

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:26 am
by billybob62
Bix is,IMHO, an Icon of the 20s. My grandson, loves BiX and having one or two of his best recordings on cylinders just might keep my cylinder players in the family when I'm gone.I do love Annie Laurie and Climbing Up the Golden Stairs and Sousa marches but the young'uns don't. :|

Re: BIX on an Edison Cylinder?

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:27 pm
by gramophone-georg
billybob62 wrote:Since Norman is going to put Barnacle Bill on a 6 inch cylinder, how many here would buy Bix At the Jazz Band Ball and/or, say, Copenhagen on an Edison cylinder.I'll take two, please. :o
Anything with Bix is worth it in my opinion... preferably even Tram and Bix.

I think Sam Lanin's "Ain't No Land Like Dixieland To Me" would be the perfect cylinder as it has great Tram and Bix solos, a great Irving Kaufman vocal, is a damn good record, and is a very good acoustical recording. Pretty sure Tommy Dorsey is the trombone here, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48tuhgWMLCE

Re: BIX on an Edison Cylinder?

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:59 pm
by Henry
gramophone-georg wrote:
billybob62 wrote:Since Norman is going to put Barnacle Bill on a 6 inch cylinder, how many here would buy Bix At the Jazz Band Ball and/or, say, Copenhagen on an Edison cylinder.I'll take two, please. :o
Anything with Bix is worth it in my opinion... preferably even Tram and Bix.

I think Sam Lanin's "Ain't No Land Like Dixieland To Me" would be the perfect cylinder as it has great Tram and Bix solos, a great Irving Kaufman vocal, is a damn good record, and is a very good acoustical recording. Pretty sure Tommy Dorsey is the trombone here, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48tuhgWMLCE
In the personnel list at the beginning to the youtube post, I recognize the name of trombonist Bill Rank. He had a tart and angular playing style quite unlike the glossy smooth, lyrical sound of TD. Both were great players in their individual ways. Rank liked to do wide register leaps in his solos, and was delightfully unpredictable and inventive in his musical ideas, while TD was the epitome of the pure legato style.

Yep, that's Bill Rank alright, no doubt about it. I'd know that sound anywhere.

Many thanks for posting this one!

Re: BIX on an Edison Cylinder?

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:11 pm
by billybob62

Re: BIX on an Edison Cylinder?

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:16 pm
by billybob62
Or,Since My Best Girl Turned Me Down:

https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=KTW7GqpCzKI

Re: BIX on an Edison Cylinder?

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:39 pm
by gramophone-georg
Henry wrote:
gramophone-georg wrote:
billybob62 wrote:Since Norman is going to put Barnacle Bill on a 6 inch cylinder, how many here would buy Bix At the Jazz Band Ball and/or, say, Copenhagen on an Edison cylinder.I'll take two, please. :o
Anything with Bix is worth it in my opinion... preferably even Tram and Bix.

I think Sam Lanin's "Ain't No Land Like Dixieland To Me" would be the perfect cylinder as it has great Tram and Bix solos, a great Irving Kaufman vocal, is a damn good record, and is a very good acoustical recording. Pretty sure Tommy Dorsey is the trombone here, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48tuhgWMLCE
In the personnel list at the beginning to the youtube post, I recognize the name of trombonist Bill Rank. He had a tart and angular playing style quite unlike the glossy smooth, lyrical sound of TD. Both were great players in their individual ways. Rank liked to do wide register leaps in his solos, and was delightfully unpredictable and inventive in his musical ideas, while TD was the epitome of the pure legato style.

Yep, that's Bill Rank alright, no doubt about it. I'd know that sound anywhere.

Many thanks for posting this one!
The Rust discography says it is, too. TD could play a lot more raw and jazz oriented than many people gave him credit for, though. He was also a more than adequate jazz trumpeter. I've collected his mostly uncredited trumpet playing records and not a one disappoints.

Re: BIX on an Edison Cylinder?

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:49 pm
by gramophone-georg
billybob62 wrote:At the Jazz Band Ball:

https://m.youtube.com/#/results?q=at%20 ... BF%20&sm=1

Copenhagen

https://m.youtube.com/#/results?q=copen ... becke&sm=1

Now, these are HOT.
So are the alternate takes of Paul Whiteman's "From Monday On" which is another great hot Bix showpiece... interesting things about the alt takes is that -4 (Victor 25368) has Tram on clarinet, and -6 (27688) has Jimmy Dorsey... on cornet! I don't know how well these would reproduce from a cylinder, however, unless you played it with a Diamond B and cygnet, or a 1A.

Re: BIX on an Edison Cylinder?

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:34 pm
by billybob62
Norman recommends the Diamond B or C for the cylinders he made from Edison electrically recorded discs.

Re: BIX on an Edison Cylinder?

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:58 am
by CarlosV
I miss the point of transferring music to a medium that necessarily degrades its quality with respect to the original one, other than for a party curiosity of Beatles music being played on cylinders.