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I recently got a second Cirola. It has small but interesting differences from my other one, including a different motor. My first Cirola has a Heinemann motor; the second one, I don't know. I do know it's not marked "Motor of Quality." I believe someone posted a Heinemann publication sometime ago that pictures all the various motors. I will search for that. and see what I got. It's a good motor and runs quietly.

What I'm looking for is the tone arm with or without the reproducer, of course, preferably with. If you have one, please let me know. Thanks.

Since this is your second one, maybe you could post a photo of the arm on your first one to show us what we're looking for?

As per request, here are some photos. The tone arm functions as the horn. The sound reflects off the inside surface of the lid. When not in use, the tone arm fits inside a compartment in the case. Sound reproduction is not nearly as good as a horn, but the machine is compact, certainly much more than a VV-50, which pushes the definition of what is portable. I suspect these machines date after 1918. I don't find them particularly rare. I have two; I've passed on two, and I've seen others. They all seem to have slight variations, for example, the handle escutcheons, knobs, and so forth. The top of spindle on my recent model is threaded on. You can unscrew about an inch of the spindle completely off. Why? Don't know. The other doesn't have this feature.

Anyway, that's a good working reproducer but don't mind to find another. Ditto for the tone arm. I'd take one, the other, or both. If you have anything, I'd be interested.

Thought I'd ask again as my query got so quickly buried. Also, people have speculated on another thread that one individual may be the only owner on the Forum who has a specific Victor machine. Am I the only owner of a Cirola? I would find that hard to believe.