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I just bought a Vic I s/n 44708. I know absolutely nothing about Victors but I just loved the look. It does not seem to crank and I was afraid to try too hard. From what I have read so far this is somewhat common due to the grease hardening.

It is in really good condition and I am pretty sure it has the original finish. It is oak and the finish has a soft sheen to it. I know the family that I bought it from and I feel sure that it was not restored in any way. There is no felt, the brass of the horn is dull but only has a few small dings. The stenciling is clear and I do not see any corrosion on any part.

I think this is a desirable model and I am curious as to what I should do toward repairing the mechanism if anything at all. How does that affect value?

Thanks

Well, these are machines after all, and machines should be in running condition. I would suggest disassembly, cleaning, repair of anything that needs attention, reassembly and lubrication, and regulation of the motor. The reproducer should also be rebuilt by replacing the old gaskets, the rubber isolator if it is an Exhibition, and 'tuned' so that the tension against the diaphragm by the stylus bar is optimal.

If your springs are wound too tight and the motor won't run down, it could be hardened grease or some other problem in the gear train. Do NOT loosen or remove the governor if there is any tension on the springs or you'll experience a 'run' and small critical components like gear teeth may be damaged. If springs are left wound up for decades, they may develop a 'memory' due to the crystalline structure of the spring steel. This can lead to a loss of power or breakage when the spring uncoils. Cheap insurance is to replace the spring, although any spring can fail at anytime due to the nature of the beast.

A band instrument repairman can do wonders removing dents and dings, and polishing and lacquering the bell.

A correctly rebuilt machine is better than an unrebuilt one, but NOT better than an improperly rebuilt one. None of these procedures are rocket surgery, but experience is good for the subtleties. If you feel secure in DIY, than go for it. If not, send it to a qualified restorer.