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RAE - 26 Electrola from 1931

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:59 am
by EarlH
RolandVV-360 wrote:Hey! I bet you feel lucky to have bought an RAE-26...

I've been searching for a darn long time, and I haven't seen a single one. If you can share some pictures of the RAE-26, or even a video, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Since I was asked to post a link or some pictures of this thing, I figured it might make more sense to have it on a different thread. I can take some pictures of this thing as well later today if you'd like and post them also. I know this is mostly about spring wound machines, but the early electric stuff is still part of that era, and it is what displaced the acoustic stuff. I usually draw the line at about 1935 though, when they started putting 'take in' grooves on the rim of the record. After that, it's just too new. It also makes a difference if you actually like the music these machines play. It surprises me how many phonograph collectors there are that DO NOT like any of the music! Or say the record noise is so distracting they can't listen to them. Anyway,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoqC0784FM0

Is a link to it playing a few records. The guy I bought it from said it had been "Re-wired" and it was playing for about an hour or two before another resistor kicked the bucket. Or at least I let the smoke out of one! So I pulled the chassis out and whoever did the work on it was sort of hit and miss. Some of it's really nicely done and other stuff looks like it was done by a guy that probably was of the opinion that more solder was better. Anyway, the work looked like it was done back in the 1960's and it was actually one of the 'new' resistors that burned up. So, it's at the shop and who knows when Skip will have time to get to it. It's no rush as I need to refinish the cabinet on it. It sounds pretty good in the video, but it's kind of muddy sounding in person but that's probably because of the parts that were puking out on it.

It changes records pretty nicely. Skip has an RAE 59 (Which is the next one up the ladder with a larger cabinet and ability to make home recordings) that he was going to sell. But after he spent about three days tweaking that changer and getting it to work like it's supposed to, he's changed his mind. They are not the easiest things to get adjusted but seem to be just fine once they are working properly. I can see why most of the guys servicing them would have suggested the landfill though as soon as they were old enough as they are not easy to make seemingly small adjustments on. Like getting the needle to land where it needs to on the rim of the record. It's surprising too on the similarities to this changer mechanism, and the 10-70 which is a few years earlier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqgq3ZsptwU

This is the transmission working. I sat there for a good 12 hours getting that thing to stop at the end of the cycle! After I cleaned and oiled it, that damned thing wouldn't stop at the end of the cycle and getting that finger to catch the moon shaped thing and stop will drive you to drink. For the first 6-7 hours I thought it was out of time and then I realized I was going to have to bend that finger a little bit to get that thing to catch it. I finally got it to catch as you can see, but man it was frustrating. And it still needs some more tweaking, but that will have to wait until Skip gets the chassis done. I'm in no rush about it as there's plenty to do around here. The guys that are doing this stuff for a living can't be charging enough, or none of it would ever get restored. A real frustration of mine is people who say they restored something when all they did was write the check, and don't give the person that actually did the work any credit. Like the folks that think an adjusting screw fell out in their player piano, and that's why the whole thing stopped working. Ok....

Re: RAE - 26 Electrola from 1931

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:05 am
by barnettrp21122
Hey, Earl, I can understand your feelings as you continue work with your changer! I spent countless happy/frustrated hours tearing mine completely apart and getting it back up and running, with many setbacks along the way. Helping a friend with his we had the same problem with the end-cycle finger placement. The needle set-down and spring pressure adjustments can be a major headache! We wondered how in the world these could be made in quantity on an assembly line back in the day. They must have had some shortcuts!
I'm sure you've found any adjustments are easier with the changer out of the cabinet, and while that's away being redone you'll have plenty of bench time with this creature! Good luck with your efforts!
Bob
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87P7xygDcs0

Re: RAE - 26 Electrola from 1931

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:14 am
by De Soto Frank
Great machine, Earl !

Thanks for sharing video-links !

Was that Cliff Edwards on the first disc ?


8-)

Re: RAE - 26 Electrola from 1931

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:08 pm
by startgroove
EarlH,

While it is true the RAE-26 is not a spring motor machine, some members here do appreciate the early electric phonograph stuff, myself included. Just a tip, if you want to talk with many other enthusiasts of electric phonographs and radios, try the Antique Radio Forum: http://antiqueradios.com/forums/index.php
There are a couple of threads there that talk about the RCA RAE models and other early changers also. Cheers, Russie

Re: RAE - 26 Electrola from 1931

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:31 pm
by fran604g
A beautiful machine, Earl. Thanks for sharing it with us.

Best,
Fran

Re: RAE - 26 Electrola from 1931

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:12 pm
by RolandVV-360
Thanks for the section about your machine, Earl. I'm looking forward to the pictures...

Re: RAE - 26 Electrola from 1931

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:47 pm
by CharliePhono
De Soto Frank wrote:Great machine, Earl !

Thanks for sharing video-links !

Was that Cliff Edwards on the first disc ?


8-)
Hi DS Frank -- do believe that's Parker Gibbs with the Ted Weems orch.

Re: RAE - 26 Electrola from 1931

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:11 pm
by AllWoundUp
I like it! It seems to be a lot easier on the records than the changers that fling the records off to the side/down a chute!

I have that Ted Weems record, "My Cutie's Due At Two to Two", love it!

Re: RAE - 26 Electrola from 1931

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:37 pm
by gemering
Earl,

Congratulations on a great addition to your collection.
I love these (ever since Bob Barnett posted a video of his) changers.
I just found an RCA 331 Duo this fall.
I hope to find an RAE next.

Gene

Re: RAE - 26 Electrola from 1931

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:35 pm
by gramophone-georg
She's a beaut, Earl! I need to get one one day...