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Edison 52000 series Diamond Disc. Electric?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:41 pm
by JAR
What exactly are the Edison "electric" records?
JR
Re: Edison 52000 series Diamond Disc. Electric?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:29 pm
by gramophone-georg
I think they started with 52089, if memory serves. Lots of nice jazz/ dance stuff on these. Some country, vocal, and dinner music stuff too.
Re: Edison 52000 series Diamond Disc. Electric?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:07 pm
by barnettrp21122
Edison recorded acoustically until 1927, two years after the other major labels started recording electrically in 1925.
Bob
Re: Edison 52000 series Diamond Disc. Electric?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:37 pm
by marcapra
The popular series of Edison electrical DD's is 52089 - 52651; semi-classical electric series is 80885 - 80907; and the full classical electric series is 82351 - 82360. There were also some electrical DD's made in the foreign series. I believe all of the Edison needle-cut series is electric. I got this information from The Collector's Guide to Edison Records by Copeland and Sherman, Monarch Record Enterprises, 2012, on page 28.
Re: Edison 52000 series Diamond Disc. Electric?
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:55 pm
by Marc Hildebrant
I have restored a number of the Electric Diamond Disc records. Many of them are quite good and sound excellent after I remove the noise.
Marc
Re: Edison 52000 series Diamond Disc. Electric?
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:28 pm
by Wolfe
Is it correct to say that the early electric Edison DD's licensed the Western Electric system ? It's what I've heard anyway.
Re: Edison 52000 series Diamond Disc. Electric?
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:56 pm
by Marc Hildebrant
I believe that the Edison people came up with their own electrical recording method.
Marc
Re: Edison 52000 series Diamond Disc. Electric?
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:36 pm
by marcapra
Many of them are quite good and sound excellent after I remove the noise.[quote][/quote]
Do you remove the noise by cleaning the Diamond Discs?
Re: Edison 52000 series Diamond Disc. Electric?
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:08 pm
by Marc Hildebrant
I remove the noise by using software products from the Diamond Cut Productions company. Their web site :
http://www.diamondcut.com/st3/ has the info.
By the way, prior to recording the Diamond Disc record, I do use alcohol to clean the surface.
Marc
Re: Edison 52000 series Diamond Disc. Electric?
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:50 pm
by Uncle Vanya
Marc Hildebrant wrote:I believe that the Edison people came up with their own electrical recording method.
Marc
No, not at all.
The Edison electric recording equipment, including the recording heads, were leased from General Electric. The system used was similar to the equipment leased to Gennett and to Brunswick. Single-ended amplifer with UV-203 driving a rubber line loaded permanent magnet recording head.
Edison's electric pick ups seem to have been built by Stromberg-Carlson.
Marc Hildebrant wrote:I remove the noise by using software products from the Diamond Cut Productions company. Their web site :
http://www.diamondcut.com/st3/ has the info.
By the way, prior to recording the Diamond Disc record, I do use alcohol to clean the surface.
Marc
Hmmm.
I have never found the surfaces of the late Diamond Discs to be particularly heavy. They seem quite enough to me when played on the proper equipment. I do not have a good C-2, so for electrical playback I use a Western Electric 9A vertical pickup. It does a very nice job, though it is not as much fun as playing the record on a nice Schubert or Beehtoven.