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Camden Phonograph, Is This For Real???

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 8:55 pm
by Phonofreak
I saw this on ebay. The case looks original. I'm not sure of the rest of the machine? Is it an early crap-o-phone, franken-phone, or a hodgepodge. I had to look twice. Any opinions?
Harvey Kravitz

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-CAMDEN- ... 2540852050

Re: Camden Phonograph, Is This For Real???

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:49 pm
by Curt A
Looks like a junker to me...

Re: Camden Phonograph, Is This For Real???

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:18 pm
by tomb
Speed control is incorrect plus those back brackets appear on a lot of Crapo phones. I like the rear brackets that say RCA Victor on them . Tom B

Re: Camden Phonograph, Is This For Real???

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 2:19 am
by Sidewinder
70's/80's crapophone. Also available as Majestic, Windsor, Imperial and many other names.


Here's a victor
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gramophone-an ... SwZVlXmRxa

Re: Camden Phonograph, Is This For Real???

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:45 am
by soundgen
Sidewinder wrote:70's/80's crapophone. Also available as Majestic, Windsor, Imperial and many other names.


Here's a victor
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gramophone-an ... SwZVlXmRxa

yes they were made in the UK in the 70's and 80s , BUT they weren't crapophones , they were well made reproductions made using original gramophone period motors , they worked well and played perfectly and loads were soLd as they were 1/3rd the price of an original machine , they were usurped in the 90s by Indian very poor quality items which were crapophones

Re: Camden Phonograph, Is This For Real???

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:23 am
by epigramophone
Many of these UK machines were made by the late George Fudge (1912-2002). He also made replica Edison horns, cranes and connectors which sold worldwide.

When asked why he hand painted the Edison trademark rather than use a replica decal, he replied that without this finishing touch it would not be a Fudge horn.

Re: Camden Phonograph, Is This For Real???

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:08 am
by Curt A
So.... it's not a Crap-O-Phone, but a Fudge-O-Phone... :roll:

Re: Camden Phonograph, Is This For Real???

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:36 am
by Phonofreak
The reason I brought this up, is because the case is real Mahogany, with nice grain. The bracket, elbow, and horn looked hokey to me.
Harvey Kravitz

Re: Camden Phonograph, Is This For Real???

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:39 am
by epigramophone
Fudge-O-Phone is as good a name as any. George made no attempt to pass his replicas off as originals.

Re: Camden Phonograph, Is This For Real???

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:47 pm
by soundgen
these weren't made by Fudge they were made in hundreds in London , nice boxes made from old school desks ,