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I got this internal horn Columbia Aretino. I have seen the outside horn ones, but almost never the internal horn ones. I have only seen these in books, never in the flesh. I now have all the Aretinos. I have the early front mount H&S, rear mount H&S, both Columbia versions, and now this one.. Sorry about the crappy picture, but you get the idea. The decal is perfect, and some paint chips on the back bracket. There are a couple of dings on the tone arm. I have been after one of these for many years.

Take care,
Harvey

Kevin, Thanks for posting this for me. I'm not a technology person. Just a restorer and a mechanic with phonographs. This was a special deal from a special friend of mine. I wanted to share this because, I never saw anything like this before, let alone one for sale. I have seen all the other internal horn client machines, but never this one. I have no idea how many of these are out there.
Harvey Kravitz

Congratulations to another interesting and rare machine.

Andreas

I've never seen one this late. The earliest Aretino front mount machines have a turntable that moves in an arc on a friction feed device. The horn the only moves up and down, not side to side. A lever protruding from on beneath the turntable allows you to cue up the record with one hand while lowering the needle with the other. I've only ever seen two of them and restored both examples. Nice late machine you have!

This machine plays both Arentino and regular-sized records. Was the spindle made that way? I thought the various off-size spindle machines (Standard Model A, X2, Arentino, etc) were originally dedicated to one type of record, a scheme to sell the owners of such machines only those records that would fit the spindle. Am I wrong in this assumption?

Harvey,

Congrats... glad you got it...

I thought it looked familiar....

I opened my copy of "The Talking Machine, An Illustrated Compendium," and it's pictured on the top of page 196. I love the description:

"The internal-horn 'Aretino' of 1913 which Arthur J O'Neill's catalogue predicted would be distributed in great numbers. The rareness of this machine today indicates that just the opposite was true."

Here's an add I spotted, via "Google Books" that illustrates a couple of Aretino upright cabinet models to add to your collection:
FROM: https://books.google.com/books?id=h6RGA ... ph&f=false

OrthoFan

I think back in the day, this was strictly for Aretinos. Sometime in it's history, this was modified to play regular records. Thanks for the compliments.
Harvey Kravitz

jboger wrote:This machine plays both Arentino and regular-sized records. Was the spindle made that way? I thought the various off-size spindle machines (Standard Model A, X2, Arentino, etc) were originally dedicated to one type of record, a scheme to sell the owners of such machines only those records that would fit the spindle. Am I wrong in this assumption?

That's a first, I never heard of an Aretino upright. I wonder if this is a Columbia like mine?
Harvey Kravitz

OrthoFan wrote:I thought it looked familiar....

I opened my copy of "The Talking Machine, An Illustrated Compendium," and it's pictured on the top of page 196. I love the description:

"The internal-horn 'Aretino' of 1913 which Arthur J O'Neill's catalogue predicted would be distributed in great numbers. The rareness of this machine today indicates that just the opposite was true."

Here's an add I spotted, via "Google Books" that illustrates a couple of Aretino upright cabinet models to add to your collection:

Aretino Cabinet Models.jpg

FROM: https://books.google.com/books?id=h6RGA ... ph&f=false

OrthoFan

Phonofreak wrote:I think back in the day, this was strictly for Aretinos. Sometime in it's history, this was modified to play regular records. Thanks for the compliments.
Harvey Kravitz

jboger wrote:This machine plays both Arentino and regular-sized records. Was the spindle made that way? I thought the various off-size spindle machines (Standard Model A, X2, Arentino, etc) were originally dedicated to one type of record, a scheme to sell the owners of such machines only those records that would fit the spindle. Am I wrong in this assumption?

On some Aretinos the large spindle is a removable disc which allows you to play both. Mine is set up this way and is original. My Aretino-size spindle/adapter has a square notch and a large patent date cast into it. I don't think yours was modified, Harvey.