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Victor Reproducers

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:54 pm
by Victor78
Does anyone have the tap size needed for the Exhibition and the #2?

Jim

Re: Victor Reproducers

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:33 pm
by Henry
Tap size for what? Needle screw?

Re: Victor Reproducers

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:53 pm
by Victor78
Guess I didn't read that over before I hit the 'post' button. I hate gettin older! But yes, I was wondering about the needle bar thumb screw size. Thanks Henry!

Re: Victor Reproducers

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:51 am
by Henry
Just checked my Exhibition. Unfortunately, the needle screw thread seems to be an in-between size: it's a 56 thread, but closer in gauge to a #1. Why couldn't Victor have simply made it either a 2-56 or a 1-72, then things would be a whole lot easier?

Re: Victor Reproducers

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:50 pm
by estott
It might have been a standard screw size at the time. Reportedly, Edison hinge pins used the same threading as Waltham Watch Screws.

Re: Victor Reproducers

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:11 pm
by Schmaltz
estott wrote:It might have been a standard screw size at the time. Reportedly, Edison hinge pins used the same threading as Waltham Watch Screws.
Yes, Estott is correct. I don't remember where the subject was covered, probably on a certain forum that is now down the memory hole, but clock and watch threads were standard on phonographs for many years. To get the right thread, you'll have to find a clock repairman.

Re: Victor Reproducers

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:38 pm
by Victor78
VictrolaGuy - Walt wrote:
Victor78 wrote:Does anyone have the tap size needed for the Exhibition and the #2?

Jim
Here ya go Jim,


Victor Exhibition Sound Box
  • Thumbscrew - #1-56TPI
  • Balance Spring Mounting Screw, Tension Adjustment Screw and Lock Nut, Rear Casting Screws - #2-56TPI
  • Shoulder Screws for Rubber Taper Tube Flange #5-40TPI
  • ** Diaphragm Mounting Screw - #00-120TPI
Victor No.2 Sound Box
  • Thumbscrew - #1-72TPI
  • Balance Spring Mounting Screw, Tension Adjustment Screw and Lock Nut, Rear Casting Screws - #1-72TPI
  • Set Screws for Rubber Taper Tube Gasket #4-40TPI
  • ** Diaphragm Mounting Screw - #00-120TPI
** I have also seen #00-110TPI used instead of #00-120TPI


Walt
Thanks Walt, I appreciate your wisdom :D

Re: Victor Reproducers

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:40 am
by Henry
VictrolaGuy - Walt wrote:
Henry wrote:Just checked my Exhibition. Unfortunately, the needle screw thread seems to be an in-between size: it's a 56 thread, but closer in gauge to a #1. Why couldn't Victor have simply made it either a 2-56 or a 1-72, then things would be a whole lot easier?
LOL...
Henry yer just ticked because model trains don't use a #1-56 thread... Me too btw... BUT, if they did, I wouldn't have to have custom taps and dies made to the tune of $45 to about $65 a pop.
You got that right, Walt! Here I sit with this nice tap set and Victor messes me up! Let's hope I never need to extract/tap for a needle screw (or anything else, especially the "extract" part). I once somehow busted off a screw inside of a very costly Minolta shift lens (let's not get into what led up to THAT!) and was in a pluperfect funk about it; luckily, the threaded hole went all the way through the piece, and I was able to turn the broken off part all the way out the other side with a jeweler's screwdriver. I then found a proper replacement screw at the hobby shop (it was a slot car part, I'm embarrassed to admit). Talk about luck! But model railroading experience, and tool sets, have come in mighty handy for lots of little jobs over the years.

Re: Victor Reproducers

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:32 am
by JerryVan
1-56 taps are available from Production Tool Supply, 1-800-270-5779. Catalog number ER60-00156, $9.50. (Probably other places too.)