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Victor phonograph back bracket

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:22 pm
by Tobia
Hello everybody,
I'm Nicola, from Italy.
I'm 27 and I'm a beginner collector of this fantastic machines.
I'm very happy to write in this forum and I'm happy to find here a lot of people with my same passion.
And please, sorry for my english!

Let's make you a question about my last phonograph.
It's a "european Victor" from Gramophone & Typewriter Ltd. A baby Monarch.

My question is:
How can I remove the tonearm from the back bracket?
I can't see any screw. It seems almost impossible to remove. Which is the trick?
Thank you for any answer!
Bye!

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Re: Victor phonograph back bracket

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:52 pm
by Valecnik
Nicola,

First of all welcome to the forum. Hope to be hearing more from you!

It appears from the pictures you have a pretty standard Victor setup tonearm and back bracket. That small pin at the base of the tonearm should be spring loaded. If you put your fingers around it and push it down. The tonearm should almost fall out. Be careful when you let go of the pin. Hang onto it as the spring pushes it back out. The pin can spring out and you could lose it. :monkey:

Re: Victor phonograph back bracket

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:12 pm
by Tobia
Wow, thank you very much!
I tried this solution but the pin seemed a bit blocked. I was not sure if that was the right way to proceed so I haven't used excessive force. Tomorrow I would try again!! Thank you! :D

Re: Victor phonograph back bracket

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:20 pm
by FellowCollector
As mentioned by Valecnik, the pin under the tonearm elbow should be able to be depressed into the back bracket and it may be stuck or snug. Try carefully dripping some very light oil around the pin where it enters the back bracket. Be sure to wipe off any excess oil as it can have a corrosive effect on the bracket. With careful pressure the pin should depress into the back bracket. You may need to hold the pin down while you lift and remove the tonearm from its "seated" position in the bracket. Go slow and you should be fine. When you reinstall the tonearm reverse the process. Keep your eye on the pin after you remove the tonearm as the spring will want to push it out completely. Best wishes.

Re: Victor phonograph back bracket

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:39 am
by Tobia
Hello!
Finally I did it! The pin was stuck because of dirt and I had to use a bit of force to remove it. But now it's free!
Thank you to all for your quick answers!

Re: Victor phonograph back bracket

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:52 am
by Valecnik
Tobia wrote:Hello!
Finally I did it! The pin was stuck because of dirt and I had to use a bit of force to remove it. But now it's free!
Thank you to all for your quick answers!
Great! If you have time, why don't you show us pictures of the whole machine when you get it ready?

Cheers

Re: Victor phonograph back bracket

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:50 am
by Tobia
I'm sure that the restauration will take me a lot of time so I post a photo of the machine in the actual status!

I will appreciate all the comments! Thank you!!
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Re: Victor phonograph back bracket

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:20 am
by Valecnik
Nice HMV you have there. I do not know the model. One of our European members will probably comment. Personally I would not do much with it, probably clean the case with kotton Klenser or some equivalent and that's about it.

Re: Victor phonograph back bracket

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:14 am
by gramophoneshane
It appears to be a Monarch Junior from around 1904/05. I had the same model some years ago.
I cant say I've seen a horn painted that way before. It's a shame the paintworks not in a little better condition. It should restore well though.

Re: Victor phonograph back bracket

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:44 pm
by Tobia
Hello!
I'm here again!
Somebody can tell me wich was the correct brake for this machine?
Mine is surely wrong...
I believe that the correct one is this:
http://www.victroladoctor.com/images/Vi ... %20(F).jpg
What do you think about it?
Thank you!!