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The XIV before and after

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:18 am
by oldphonographsteve
So I bought a Victrola XIV several years ago and made a post on the topic.
http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... =2&t=19143
The thing was severely alligatored and rough looking. I thought I would share the (almost) final results with the forum here and hopefully gain some feedback. All of the metal parts were polished to shine with Flitz, the turntable felt was replaced, the crank was scrubbed clean of rust, and the reproducer was expertly rebuilt by Ron Sitko. The most important change, however, is the finish. It is amazing what a little bit of gunk removal, 800 grit sandpaper, and some re-amalgamating can do in the end. I should note that no new finish was added to the machine, only the old one was smoothed. All I have left to do is figure out how to get this the crank escutcheon secured since the screw holes are worn and allows the screws to be loose. Perhaps a little bit of wood putty or a small bit of epoxy might do the trick.
(Clicking on the photos should correct their orientation.)

-Stephen

Re: The XIV before and after

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:23 am
by alang
Great Job! For the screw holes, I would fill them with toothpicks and glue, not wood putty. Some use matchsticks, but they are too soft I think.

Andreas

Re: The XIV before and after

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:26 am
by phonogfp
Wow, Steve - that doesn't look like the same machine! Well done.

As for the crank escutcheon, the fix is easy. Simply grab a wooden toothpick and some wood glue. Break off the toothpick in the hole (2 or 3 times), then pull out the pieces, cover them with wood glue, and reinsert them into the hole. Some folks like to let it dry completely before re-installing the screws, but I prefer to let it set up for about 30 minutes, then reinstall while the wood/glue is still a bit flexible (and don't torque those screws of course). Either way works.

Congratulations on a nice job - -

George P.

Re: The XIV before and after

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:27 am
by phonogfp
Andreas and I were typing simultaneously! :)

George P.

Re: The XIV before and after

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:36 am
by oldphonographsteve
alang wrote:Great Job! For the screw holes, I would fill them with toothpicks and glue, not wood putty. Some use matchsticks, but they are too soft I think.

Andreas
phonogfp wrote:Wow, Steve - that doesn't look like the same machine! Well done.

As for the crank escutcheon, the fix is easy. Simply grab a wooden toothpick and some wood glue. Break off the toothpick in the hole (2 or 3 times), then pull out the pieces, cover them with wood glue, and reinsert them into the hole. Some folks like to let it dry completely before re-installing the screws, but I prefer to let it set up for about 30 minutes, then reinstall while the wood/glue is still a bit flexible (and don't torque those screws of course). Either way works.

Congratulations on a nice job - -

George P.
Thanks for letting me know! I will try it as soon as I get my hands on some toothpicks and wood glue. I'd head off to Home Depot, but the roads are a bit dicey at the moment. :D

-Stephen

Re: The XIV before and after

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:47 pm
by fran604g
A beautiful job, Steve! Congratulations on a job well-done.

Happy Holidays!

Fran

Re: The XIV before and after

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:31 pm
by Django
An alternative repair for stripped holes is to open them up to 3/16” and glue in some dowels. I did this recently, but instead of using ready made dowels, I turned and pre-drilled the plugs from some old mahogany. I glued them in with Titebond 3 wood glue. It is a little more work, but a nice permanent fix.

Your machine looks great.

Re: The XIV before and after

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:43 pm
by EdiBrunsVic
Yes, it looks just great.

Re: The XIV before and after

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:09 pm
by Cody K
Steve, that's a beautiful job. It's amazing how good an abused finish can look after careful treatment with superfine sandpaper and a good cleaning and polishing -- and lots of patience. It's very satisfying to see a long-neglected machine come back to life. Well done!

Re: The XIV before and after

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:45 am
by Phono-Phan
Awesome job on this restoration!!! The toothpick remedy works great. I have used it for years.
Ken Brekke