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Columbia Travel Arm Repair
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:13 pm
by recordnut
In the post-Christmas cleaning frenzy, my Columbia Disc Graphophone traveling arm managed to get broken. Any advice as to repairing or replacing would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Re: Columbia Travel Arm Repair
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:11 pm
by edisonclassm
Find someone who is proficient at welding aluminum. Do not use epoxy!
Re: Columbia Travel Arm Repair
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:15 pm
by Phonofreak
I would repair the arm. Original Columbia arms are tough to find loose. Reproduction ones are also hard to find because they are no longer being made. I use Gorilla super glue, gel. This is the same company that makes Gorilla glue. This stuff doesn't expand or turn yellow like the other stuff. I have used this stuff for a similar repair. Make sure the areas are very clean. Shake the bottle and apply two small drops on each end of the broken joint. Hold tightly for about 10-20 seconds and put away for 24 hrs. I have used this for busted pot metal like Columbia arms and Brunswick reproducers. You can get this at any good hardware store. Good luck with your repair.
Harvey kravitz
Re: Columbia Travel Arm Repair
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:23 pm
by edisonclassm
Or any other type of glue for that matter! Do it right and have it aluma welded! This type of repair will hold. Glue will not!
Re: Columbia Travel Arm Repair
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:50 pm
by recordnut
Thanks for the responses. On closer examination, it does look like it has been previously repaired. There are darker gray patches near the break.
Re: Columbia Travel Arm Repair
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:13 pm
by Phonofreak
It depends on the glue you use. The runny crazy glue will not. I haven't had much luck with epoxy or JB weld. That's why I used that Gorilla Super Gel. It's worked for me.
Harvey Kravitz
edisonclassm wrote:Or any other type of glue for that matter! Do it right and have it aluma welded! This type of repair will hold. Glue will not!
Re: Columbia Travel Arm Repair
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:55 pm
by jukejunkie
Any major repair is worth doing right and glue is not a repair but a temporary solution.
Please for the sake of the next owner and restorer 100 years from now have it repaired correctly and have it welded. No one wants to try remove old glue to fix things properly.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Kurt Morrison
Re: Columbia Travel Arm Repair
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:58 pm
by Phonofreak
I did basically the same repair a couple of years ago. I can assure you, it is not temporary. I did this because I don't have access to have this welded. Bottom line, a strong invisible repair when done right. If there is access to someone who welds aluminum, do that. If not, then the glue that I mentioned works great.
Harvey Kravitz
Re: Columbia Travel Arm Repair
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:38 pm
by gramophone-georg
Phonofreak wrote:I did basically the same repair a couple of years ago. I can assure you, it is not temporary. I did this because I don't have access to have this welded. Bottom line, a strong invisible repair when done right. If there is access to someone who welds aluminum, do that. If not, then the glue that I mentioned works great.
Harvey Kravitz
And gluing it now doesn't mean it can't be welded later.
Re: Columbia Travel Arm Repair
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:16 pm
by EarlH
gramophone-georg wrote:Phonofreak wrote:I did basically the same repair a couple of years ago. I can assure you, it is not temporary. I did this because I don't have access to have this welded. Bottom line, a strong invisible repair when done right. If there is access to someone who welds aluminum, do that. If not, then the glue that I mentioned works great.
Harvey Kravitz
And gluing it now doesn't mean it can't be welded later.
I don't know about that. I know a good welder that WILL NOT try to weld something after it's been epoxied, and I never really asked Rick what the trouble is. But I've heard him complain about it more than once and he's told me NOT to epoxy something and then bring it out later and expect him to make the weld stick.
I would email Crow Custom Cast Welding in Hudson, Wisconsin and see what he thinks about it. I've had him do repairs on stoves and a friend of mine had him weld something that was aluminum for an old radio, and the repairs on my stove is just fine. I honestly don't even know where they are anymore and it's been heating my house for the last 5 years now.
http://www.castmetalwelding.com/antique-restoration Is a link to his website. They are very nice folks.