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Pathé record question.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:40 am
by JAR
I have come across a Pathé Demonstration Record. It is cut inside out?
I have a 78 adapter for my DD C-19. If I use a sapphire ball with it,
will it play on the Edison?

JAR

Re: Pathé record question.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:45 pm
by CarlosV
The US Pathé demo record starts at the outside. A DD machine may be able to play it with an adapter,although I don't remember seeing one for Pathé records (several adapters were made to play lateral discs on Edison, like yours, but these will not play Pathés unless you can turn its diaphragm 90 degrees).

Re: Pathé record question.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:29 pm
by JAR
That I can do.
EDISON 2.jpg
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JAR

Re: Pathé record question.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:41 pm
by CarlosV
Then you just need one sapphire needle and you are set!

Re: Pathé record question.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:13 pm
by JAR
Yep, didn't someone have those for $40.00 on e-bay at one time.
I believe there was a post here?

JAR

Re: Pathé record question.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:57 pm
by CarlosV
There are several for sale, but you need to be careful when buying because some of these are not sapphire, but glass. It is not distinguishable from a sapphire (at least to me), but it will crack after a small number of plays, and start to eat away records. I would recommend to buy from a reiiabe source, there are reputable dealers in the US that sell these needles.

Re: Pathé record question.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:37 pm
by De Soto Frank
JAR wrote:That I can do.
EDISON 2.jpg
JAR

"Give me enough elbows, and I will conquer the world!" :mrgreen:


I have one of these same adapters... the possibilities are endless ! ;)

Re: Pathé record question.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:50 pm
by JAR
Cool.

Re: Pathé record question.

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:41 am
by melvind
I thought since the Pathé Demonstration record was being discussed I would try to digitize the A side of my copy (which is in pretty poor shape, but does play). I used my phono cartridge setup for vertical recording with a 3 mil tip and had to use a lot of anti-skating to get the shallow grooves to track correctly. It seems to be rather softly recorded and because of that there is a lot of hiss I couldn't really remove without compromising the sound. Not the best sound of my recording and I probably need to learn more about how to digitize this type of record. But, for what it is worth here is the YouTube Video.

During the trombone demo there are a couple of grooves that look as though someone put either a steel needle of a bad sapphire needle down on the record. So, there is momentary distortion.

[youtubehd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKjWlNRDsHw[/youtubehd]
https://youtu.be/TKjWlNRDsHw

Re: Pathé record question.

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:29 pm
by PeterF
And here is the demo record played on the hardware it was intended to demo. Plus a math lesson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtzr7lqhoCM