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California Walnut Victrola XVI
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:13 am
by Django
Not mine. Looks like a real nice example. If I was local, it would be on it's way home.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/332576785163?ul_noapp=true
Re: California Walnut Victrola XVI
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:01 am
by OrthoSean
That's a beauty. I see the correct albums sitting off to the side yet no mention if they're included in the sale unless I missed it. It would be a shame to see them separated from the machine after all these decades.
Sean
Re: California Walnut Victrola XVI
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:03 am
by phonogfp
This eBay seller listed this last week - - stripped of most of its gold-plated metal parts (door knobs, crank, escutcheon, etc.)! He didn't get a single bid, despite all the "gilded age" and "deco" prose.
It is indeed a beautiful machine!
George P.
Re: California Walnut Victrola XVI
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:29 am
by brianu
Buyer beware on this one... some shots show a relatively complete machine, others show it stripped of all hardware, one shows plastic bags of hardware, listing says “most gold trimmed metal hardware included”... those two open doors on the back are odd, and the finish looks off, strangely dark on the flat panels - lid, sides, doors, back.... as if coated with something... I’d want to see something like this in person, and would definitely want to buy it that way rather than rely on a game of chance regarding what might ultimately get delivered to my house if purchased from a distance.
Re: California Walnut Victrola XVI
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:44 am
by Django
brianu wrote:Buyer beware on this one... some shots show a relatively complete machine, others show it stripped of all hardware, one shows plastic bags of hardware, listing says “most gold trimmed metal hardware included”... those two open doors on the back are odd, and the finish looks off, strangely dark on the flat panels - lid, sides, doors, back.... as if coated with something... I’d want to see something like this in person, and would definitely want to buy it that way rather than rely on a game of chance regarding what might ultimately get delivered to my house if purchased from a distance.
It is a pick up only, so inspection should be available. The finish may just be old wax build-up and some crazing. The back doors are a mystery. Maybe Victor made some special cabinets like this Walnut one so that they could be used for either VV or VE machines. Just a theory with no data to back it up. I just think that it is a thing of beauty. I love the carvings on the front columns on that variant on the XVI.
Re: California Walnut Victrola XVI
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:18 am
by phonogfp
Django wrote:
I just think that it is a thing of beauty. I love the carvings on the front columns on that variant on the XVI.
I agree. The first phonograph I ever bought with my own money was this variant of the XVI, and I still have it. As a matter of fact, there's an article on it in the March 2018 issue of
The Antique Phonograph...which I was hoping would arrive in today's mail...but it didn't.
George P.
Re: California Walnut Victrola XVI
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:48 pm
by GregVTLA
It also has an improved concert reproducer, which is surely a bonus. I personally prefer the L door XVI to the later one but I really like these carvings!
Re: California Walnut Victrola XVI
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:50 pm
by gramophone-georg
brianu wrote:Buyer beware on this one... some shots show a relatively complete machine, others show it stripped of all hardware, one shows plastic bags of hardware, listing says “most gold trimmed metal hardware included”... those two open doors on the back are odd, and the finish looks off, strangely dark on the flat panels - lid, sides, doors, back.... as if coated with something... I’d want to see something like this in person, and would definitely want to buy it that way rather than rely on a game of chance regarding what might ultimately get delivered to my house if purchased from a distance.
There are two different listings for this same machine with two different prices. It appears to not have a turntable.
Something odd going on here for sure.
Re: California Walnut Victrola XVI
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:16 pm
by Django
gramophone-georg wrote:brianu wrote:Buyer beware on this one... some shots show a relatively complete machine, others show it stripped of all hardware, one shows plastic bags of hardware, listing says “most gold trimmed metal hardware included”... those two open doors on the back are odd, and the finish looks off, strangely dark on the flat panels - lid, sides, doors, back.... as if coated with something... I’d want to see something like this in person, and would definitely want to buy it that way rather than rely on a game of chance regarding what might ultimately get delivered to my house if purchased from a distance.
There are two different listings for this same machine with two different prices. It appears to not have a turntable.
Something odd going on here for sure.
They were selling it in 2 configurations, complete and stripped. I guess that would suit a buyer with a destroyed cabinet. It’s a little odd, but as a local sale, I would still take a look. You don’t see one like that every day and $500.00 still seems reasonable to me. It’s a long way from New Hampshire and I just got a Walnut VV-120 on Sunday, so this will have to be someone else’s treasure.
Re: California Walnut Victrola XVI
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:20 pm
by GregVTLA
I've never seen a listing with knobs and exterior gold trim as extras. Why!