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SINGLE PIECE CYGNET HORN SUPPORT (Bracket)

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:46 pm
by nosforless
Was wondering if this single piece cygnet horn bracket is original or not? Was found on an Edison Triumph Model B which had been updated with a 2/4 minute combination attachment along with a Model O Reproducer. Have included photos. Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated.

Re: SINGLE PIECE CYGNET HORN SUPPORT (Bracket)

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:00 pm
by Dave D
I do not believe it is original. The spring support assembly is definitely not from the Edison factory. My two cents worth.
Dave D

Re: SINGLE PIECE CYGNET HORN SUPPORT (Bracket)

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:13 pm
by Phono-Phan
Definitely homemade.

Re: SINGLE PIECE CYGNET HORN SUPPORT (Bracket)

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:20 am
by 52089
I have a somewhat similar piece that came to me with a Standard. I think George P said he thought it might have been a staircase rail bent to shape. You can add me to the "home made" vote.

Re: SINGLE PIECE CYGNET HORN SUPPORT (Bracket)

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:49 pm
by nosforless
Thanks to all those for their responses. I appreciate it. I had a felling that it may be reproduction, but wasn’t 100% certain. So the only Cygnet Horn Supports made for Edison machines were nickel-plated steel, two-piece ones?

Re: SINGLE PIECE CYGNET HORN SUPPORT (Bracket)

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:49 am
by graynavarre
I wouldn't say reproduction so much as home made during the time period of phonographs.

Re: SINGLE PIECE CYGNET HORN SUPPORT (Bracket)

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:58 pm
by phonogfp
nosforless wrote: So the only Cygnet Horn Supports made for Edison machines were nickel-plated steel, two-piece ones?
Yes. The earliest top rods are of a flatter design and use a rigid mount to suspend the horn. The cygnet crane bottoms of Firesides, Standards, and Homes are the same (with two variations in step-back depending on the type of carriage being used).

The Triumph/Idelia/Alva cygnet crane bottoms are a couple of inches longer than the others, and are difficult to find. This probably explains the crane you picture. Someone needed a cygnet crane for a Triumph, and couldn't find an original. However, they clearly had access to a Fireside/Standard/Home cygnet crane to copy (they didn't do a bad job).

George P.