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I purchased an Edison Triumph a while ago, and when it was shipped to me, the P.O. managed to break the motor frame into several pieces, requiring me to find another one. My problem is, how to I get the spring housing into the motor frame without taking it apart? Is there some way to do this? Please see pictures of what I have to work with. Thanks!

The shaft that runs thru the barrels will have to be pulled out and the barrels placed in the frame and the shaft put thru the end stanchion and feed thru the barrels until it is in the stanchions at each end. Put some oil on the shaft or in the center of the barrels when you start. The shaft stays stationary and the barrels rotate on it. The set screws should engage the groove in the shaft at each end.

Wes K wrote:The shaft that runs thru the barrels will have to be pulled out and the barrels placed in the frame and the shaft put thru the end stanchion and feed thru the barrels until it is in the stanchions at each end. Put some oil on the shaft or in the center of the barrels when you start. The shaft stays stationary and the barrels rotate on it. The set screws should engage the groove in the shaft at each end.

I agree with Wes. Although, on all of my own Edison Triumphs I have carefully driven the shaft out rather than pulling on it. I didn't want to risk putting any pull marks on the shaft I was working on. I got a hammer and one of my long heavier gauge Philips head screw drivers and gently tapped on the shaft end and eventually it begins moving (YAY!!). Once I see that happening I know I'm on my way. Whichever method you use to remove that shaft, proceed slowly and carefully and BE SURE to keep the spring barrels together as though the shaft was still inside them. Believe me, you don't want the springs to get unhooked! Once you have the shaft out, CAREFULLY position the spring barrel assembly just as it is into the casting and insert the shaft back in through the spring barrel assembly and you should be good to go! Good luck!

Doug

OK. I was able to get it in. Thanks for the suggestions.

Wow! I did not know these Triumph castings are that fragile, how do they even withstand the force from all of those springs without breaking?

Victrolacollector wrote:Wow! I did not know these Triumph castings are that fragile, how do they even withstand the force from all of those springs without breaking?

Chances are, whoever packed it failed to run the springs down before packing and then failed to put sufficient packing material around the spring barrels to support them. My Victor V, an eBay purchase shipped from the opposite coast, arrived with a broken motor frame for the that reason, and just to sweeten the pot once released the spring barrels bashed out one side of the case.