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Hey everyone. Hoping someone can help out with a few parts I need! Picked up this nice little BZH for $20. From around 1910. Cast iron turntable. Interesting speed control. Missing the gear from the governor to the spindle. If I must I can but the whole motor. Also need a female crank handle. Please let me know!

Thanks all!
S

That was a fiber gear- very quiet, but if they get oil soaked they can disintegrate. That combination on/off/speed control was quite typical of the cheap Columbia product.

estott wrote:That was a fiber gear- very quiet, but if they get oil soaked they can disintegrate. That combination on/off/speed control was quite typical of the cheap Columbia product.

Thanks! Now to find one!

pellicano1 wrote:

estott wrote:That was a fiber gear- very quiet, but if they get oil soaked they can disintegrate. That combination on/off/speed control was quite typical of the cheap Columbia product.

Thanks! Now to find one!

Ron Sitko may be able to help you out with the fiber gear.

Also, I believe all the "crank handles" were bored straight through the wood, rather than being male or female.

George P.

phonogfp wrote:

pellicano1 wrote:

estott wrote:That was a fiber gear- very quiet, but if they get oil soaked they can disintegrate. That combination on/off/speed control was quite typical of the cheap Columbia product.

Thanks! Now to find one!

Ron Sitko may be able to help you out with the fiber gear.

Also, I believe all the "crank handles" were bored straight through the wood, rather than being male or female.

George P.

Ok I will give him a call tomorrow. Im a frequent flyer with him lol. With the crank, not following you. I need toe crank that screws in to wind, female ended.

pellicano1 wrote: Also need a female crank handle.

I'm just being a jerk.

George P.

phonogfp wrote:

pellicano1 wrote: Also need a female crank handle.

I'm just being a jerk.

George P.

Haha you got me! I was like, huh??? lol.

Hey,

I just redid a machine I believe is an Oxford Talking Machine that is basically the same thing. Are you sure yours isn't an Oxford?

Also, if you want some case parts, I have columns and trim molding for these.

You did great at that price! What a nice machine--they sound better than they really should.

VanEpsFan1914 wrote:Hey,

I just redid a machine I believe is an Oxford Talking Machine that is basically the same thing. Are you sure yours isn't an Oxford?

This is yet another Columbia client, and the label reads "BZH HORNLESS TALKING MACHINE" I have no idea what firm marketed them & would like to know.

A BZH is the same as an Oxford. As said before this is a client machine. Also, the spindle gear is in 2 parts. There is the pesky fiber gear that always needs replacing. The other part is the brass spindle gear, that the fiber gear goes with. I couldn't tell by the pictures, but it looks like the brass gear is missing. Your machine is the later version from about 1912- 1915 or so. The early ones had a stamped oval metal grill, and the early push-pull speed control on the motor. The case was smaller, too.
Harvey Kravitz

estott wrote:

VanEpsFan1914 wrote:Hey,

I just redid a machine I believe is an Oxford Talking Machine that is basically the same thing. Are you sure yours isn't an Oxford?

This is yet another Columbia client, and the label reads "BZH HORNLESS TALKING MACHINE" I have no idea what firm marketed them & would like to know.