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Wanting To Know If My Victrola Is Authenic
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:42 pm
by Vanillablooos
Hello all. I am knew to the group and I am very glad to be here. I am hoping to find out if the Victrola I own is authentic.
This may be a dumb question and I apologize ahead of time if it is.
Is there anyone here who is very knowledgeable about Victrola's?
I will wait for an answer before I post pictures is what I have.
Thank you in advance!!
Derek
Re: Wanting To Know If My Victrola Is Authenic
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:44 pm
by phonogfp
Derek,
There are thousands of people on this forum who are knowledgeable of Victrolas. You can also check this web site:
http://www.victor-victrola.com/
Post your pictures here and you'll receive a lot of help.
George P.
Re: Wanting To Know If My Victrola Is Authenic
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:57 pm
by Phono-Phan
Derek,
Welcome to the Talking Machine Forum. It is best to post pictures so everyone can see what you are talking about.
Ken
Re: Wanting To Know If My Victrola Is Authenic
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:03 am
by Lucius1958
Welcome!
We have some very knowledgeable collectors on this Forum; so go ahead and post your photos.
Bill
Re: Wanting To Know If My Victrola Is Authenic
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:01 am
by Jerry B.
As we wait for Derek to post a photo of his "Victrola", I wonder about the use of the word itself. If you ask for a Kleenex you are asking for a tissue. When did the word "Victrola" become generic for talking machines in general? There is little doubt that Victor changed the entire industry with the introduction of the VTLA. If you lived in a town that had a general store that carried the Brunswick line and you made a purchase, did you tell your friends that you bought a new "victrola?" Or is it a more recent use of the word? When someone asks about your hobby do you reply that you collect victrolas? I suppose a "victrola" collector could collect a variety of makes while a "Victrola" collector could be focused on Victor Victrolas. As we wait for Derek's photo, what do others think?
Jerry B.
Re: Wanting To Know If My Victrola Is Authenic
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:32 am
by phonogfp
Jerry B. wrote:As we wait for Derek to post a photo of his "Victrola", I wonder about the use of the word itself. If you ask for a Kleenex you are asking for a tissue. When did the word "Victrola" become generic for talking machines in general?
By the late teens Victor was using advertising slogans such as "Be Sure It
Is a Victrola," and of course, "Look For The Dog." Generic use of the term "Victrola" is over a century old.
...And I'm suspecting the same thing you are, Jerry!
George P.
Re: Wanting To Know If My Victrola Is Authenic
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:38 pm
by alang
Coming originally from Europe I usually say phonographs and gramophones. Only when I get the blank stare I remember to mention Victrolas, which at least some people seem to remember. Of course, that includes everything with a crank that makes music
Occasionally people remember only RCA Victrolas from the 40s or 50s, then it pretty much includes everything that plays a disc record.
Funny enough, often the reaction to seeing a cylinder phonograph play appears similar to what Edison must have experienced, close to a magic trick. With everything electronic now fewer and fewer people seem to have an understanding of mechanical possibilities.
Andreas
Re: Wanting To Know If My Victrola Is Authenic
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:46 pm
by EdiBrunsVic
I have contacted Derek and he does own a Victrola X.
Re: Wanting To Know If My Victrola Is Authenic
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:42 pm
by AZ*
So the "big mystery" is solved.

Re: Wanting To Know If My Victrola Is Authenic
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:04 am
by Jerry B.
So the "big mystery" is solved.

Maybe, maybe not... I have an assortment of ID tags, a little hammer, and some small nails. What would you like? We could take any talking machine make it a Victor II, an Amberola 1-A, or perhaps a VV-XII. Without a photo it is hard to tell.
Even if it is a VV-X, is it the very early and unusual table model X, or perhaps the desirable open sided X. A VV-X can be quite interesting or somewhat ordinary.
Jerry B.