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Well, this is what I get for bragging on the forum the other day about my Brunswick Seville. I've had it for two years, and being that it was under 100 degrees today, I decided to finally service the motor outside on a work table. The usual: clean, oil, clean springs and barrels, repack with grease, etc. All was going swimmingly until I reassembled the motor, inserted the crank (still outside on my work table) and lo and behold, spring barrel #1 would not engage. I'm used to such scenarios, and after disassembly and inspection, I see the lip/flange on the pictured gear just gave up the ghost such that the spring now won't catch and wind. As I haven't had a decent workshop or tools in years (very rudimentary setup for working on motors), I attempted with the tools I had, in this case a jeweler's file, to diligently and methodically file enough metal away to ostensibly make enough of a new lip for the spring to catch. No dice. So, if anyone out there might have one of these lying around, I'd be in the market. Thanks for reading and hope someone can help. This machine is the one I use all the time in my living room and I'm a little lost without it!

This happened to me with a Victor III. Could you look on the back of the arbor and, taking a punch, pound the thing a few times making it longer so the spring will catch it?

Also, the old-time ignition files from a car with points ignition help. They're tough enough and small enough at the same time.

Good luck with your repair, and if you can't fix it, hope you can find a gear.

The advice, above, to drive out the pin just a bit is excellent. Also, check the inside end of the spring to be sure that it wraps tightly around the arbor shaft. The spring should be so snug on the shaft that you have to apply some small amount of force to rotate the arbor enough for the catch pin to come around to the hole in the spring and then "snap" into place as the pin goes into the spring hole. If that's not the case now, you'll need to carefully bend the inner end of the spring into a tighter spiral, so it grips the shaft well. Sometimes, disassembly can "unwrap" and distort the spring end, making it difficult to get the spring to catch again. Just think, the catch pin is the exact same one you had before you took things apart and I assume it worked fine then, so maybe it's not so much the pin as it is the spring itself?

JerryVan wrote:The advice, above, to drive out the pin just a bit is excellent. Also, check the inside end of the spring to be sure that it wraps tightly around the arbor shaft. The spring should be so snug on the shaft that you have to apply some small amount of force to rotate the arbor enough for the catch pin to come around to the hole in the spring and then "snap" into place as the pin goes into the spring hole. If that's not the case now, you'll need to carefully bend the inner end of the spring into a tighter spiral, so it grips the shaft well. Sometimes, disassembly can "unwrap" and distort the spring end, making it difficult to get the spring to catch again. Just think, the catch pin is the exact same one you had before you took things apart and I assume it worked fine then, so maybe it's not so much the pin as it is the spring itself?

Thank you, Jerry, for your response and your advice. I had communicated/updated Charles/VanEpsFan a bit ago via PM. And of course, you are correct when you say it was the same pin when it came out as going back in, so I was indeed scratching my head on this one. I tried Charles's suggestion to tap the pin out further, but all of my efforts to that end were fruitless, save for the blue atmosphere around me from my language while trying to tap (read=hammer) that pin out further. I was finally able to put a bit more of a "lip" on that flange through laborious filing and, lo and behold, I guess the Universe aligned and the spring snapped back onto the thing and is now holding. For how long, I don't know, but holding it is. The motor is so quiet as to not even be heard -- and I haven't even finished lubricating it yet. What I have to deal with now is the speed control, which is a great mystery to me. In fact, I had posted some 1-2 years back about that issue, and it didn't seem anyone had any insights that helped. I have zero clue how to adjust it properly from the underside, with its long "arm" and spring-loaded workings, but, as is said, this is how we learn.

But again, thanks, and to any moderator(s) looking at this post, feel free to move it to the tips & tricks section, as it looks like that's where this is going, as I still need assistance with that motor!

Best,
CharlieP

Charlie,

Can you post a photo of the speed control? (From the underside)

Try this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1xwHrGQWig&t=8s then look at my videos on springs.

JerryVan wrote:Charlie,

Can you post a photo of the speed control? (From the underside)

Jerry, I was able to get everything working properly. It just took some time to analyze the construct of the speed control and to slowly work with it until its mode of function was fully understood. I have only worked with Victor speed controls, so was unfamiliar with the one on this Brunswick. It's all up and running and functioning now. By the time I read your message, the motor was back together and reinstalled in the cabinet, so I did not pull it back out for a photo.

cheryla wrote:Try this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1xwHrGQWig&t=8s then look at my videos on springs.

Thank you! I have subscribed to your videos.

Charlie, and all, which one is that red grease used on the springs? I'm still trying to find a good spring grease. The one I'm currently using seems not to work properly...

Inigo wrote:Charlie, and all, which one is that red grease used on the springs? I'm still trying to find a good spring grease. The one I'm currently using seems not to work properly...

It is the Mobil 1 synthetic grease.