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Edison Antique Scroll Player Serial No. H920360 Proxbid

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 3:36 pm
by zipcord

Re: Edison Antique Scroll Player Serial No. H920360 Proxbid

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:48 pm
by Curt A
What in the world is a Thomas A. Edison Antique Scroll Player... something that plays punched paper scrolls? :roll: :lol:

Re: Edison Antique Scroll Player Serial No. H920360 Proxbid

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 11:07 am
by Inigo
Holy Edison! This scroll player looks nice and fairly complete. It's at 180, let's see how high it reaches in following 22 days...
Is it a Triumph? I'm not learned in Edison machines... I'm still learning to distinguish the models with the short chassis (feed screw parallel to the mandrel) from the largest ones (feed screw in prolongation of the mandrel).

Re: Edison Antique Scroll Player Serial No. H920360 Proxbid

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:12 pm
by fran604g
Inigo wrote:Holy Edison! This scroll player looks nice and fairly complete. It's at 180, let's see how high it reaches in following 22 days...
Is it a Triumph? I'm not learned in Edison machines... I'm still learning to distinguish the models with the short chassis (feed screw parallel to the mandrel) from the largest ones (feed screw in prolongation of the mandrel).
It's an Edison "Home" Model B Cylinder record Phonograph with 2 and 4 minute attachment (gearing). It is shown with a Model H (4-minute only reproducer) which has the pivot end of a presumably broken "Tiz-It" reproducer to horn connecting swivel stuck onto it - of which the other end is still connected to the Edison "Standard" Phonograph horn rubber connector. The crane would also have been supplied by either the factory, or a dealer for this particular set up. It also looks to be in very nice outward condition.

No "scrolls" about it, except for possibly the Edison decal which is commonly referred to as the "script" decal.

Best,
Fran

Re: Edison Antique Scroll Player Serial No. H920360 Proxbid

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:36 pm
by Curt A
Nothing here...

Re: Edison Antique Scroll Player Serial No. H920360 Proxbid

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 3:47 pm
by gramophone-georg
Curt A wrote:Inigo, your quote: "Holy Edison! This scroll player looks nice and fairly complete."

PLEASE don't take this as a criticism, since you admitted that you are not knowledgeable about Edison machines... but please learn to call them by the correct term: Edison "cylinder" machines or players. Never call them "scroll players" or "tube players" - they play "cylinder" records, NOT tubes or scrolls... Even though the definition of "tube" could describe a cylinder, you won't be taken seriously by collectors if you use that term, since it more commonly describes the cardboard center of toilet paper rolls or the subway in London.

The word "scroll" is actually more annoying, since it has absolutely no relevance to phonographs, records or music, in any way.
Dictionary definition of a scroll: (1) a roll of parchment, paper, copper, or other material, especially one with writing on it: a scroll containing the entire Old Testament. (2)something, especially an ornament, resembling a partly unrolled sheet of paper or having a spiral or coiled form. (3) a list, roll, roster, or schedule.

I know that you were quoting from the Proxbid Ad, but whoever wrote that, obviously has no knowledge of the machine that is for sale, which makes the description suspect, at least to me.
Sure it does! You've never heard of a Scroll Victor? :roll:

"Lighten up, Francis!" :lol:

Re: Edison Antique Scroll Player Serial No. H920360 Proxbid

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 4:17 pm
by Inigo
Sorry, guys... thanks for the info.
I was of course just kidding, as per the ignorance of who posted the advert... I respect very much the cylinder colleagues, although I'm not a 'scroll' man, but a 'plate' man.
Still I've read a lot (and continue reading) about those fabulous, complex and delicate cylinder machines. I'm interested in them, although I don't want to go into that years too. My wife tolerates my record collecting, with which in 41 years I've amassed a collection of near 6,000 78s and 12 gramophones, plus the 500 LPs, three electrical record players, the 250 CDs, thousands of mp3 files, the piano and sheet music, the music and gramophones books, etc. If I enter also in the amazing cylinder field it would be impossible to handle! I don't want to tempt her patience. If I ever enter herein, I would be absorbed. Cylinder players are much more complex than gramophones, amazing for a tech mind like mine, mechanically inclined, etc...
Do you understand me? :D
But I see this example, that l looks so good, that I stepped in just for curiosity, and to encourage the interest of the cylindric colleagues herein....

Re: Edison Antique Scroll Player Serial No. H920360 Proxbid

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 4:27 pm
by fran604g
gramophone-georg wrote:
Curt A wrote:Inigo, your quote: "Holy Edison! This scroll player looks nice and fairly complete."

PLEASE don't take this as a criticism, since you admitted that you are not knowledgeable about Edison machines... but please learn to call them by the correct term: Edison "cylinder" machines or players. Never call them "scroll players" or "tube players" - they play "cylinder" records, NOT tubes or scrolls... Even though the definition of "tube" could describe a cylinder, you won't be taken seriously by collectors if you use that term, since it more commonly describes the cardboard center of toilet paper rolls or the subway in London.

The word "scroll" is actually more annoying, since it has absolutely no relevance to phonographs, records or music, in any way.
Dictionary definition of a scroll: (1) a roll of parchment, paper, copper, or other material, especially one with writing on it: a scroll containing the entire Old Testament. (2)something, especially an ornament, resembling a partly unrolled sheet of paper or having a spiral or coiled form. (3) a list, roll, roster, or schedule.

I know that you were quoting from the Proxbid Ad, but whoever wrote that, obviously has no knowledge of the machine that is for sale, which makes the description suspect, at least to me.
Sure it does! You've never heard of a Scroll Victor? :roll:

"Lighten up, Francis!" :lol:
???

Re: Edison Antique Scroll Player Serial No. H920360 Proxbid

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:51 pm
by gramophone-georg
fran604g wrote:
gramophone-georg wrote:
Curt A wrote:Inigo, your quote: "Holy Edison! This scroll player looks nice and fairly complete."

PLEASE don't take this as a criticism, since you admitted that you are not knowledgeable about Edison machines... but please learn to call them by the correct term: Edison "cylinder" machines or players. Never call them "scroll players" or "tube players" - they play "cylinder" records, NOT tubes or scrolls... Even though the definition of "tube" could describe a cylinder, you won't be taken seriously by collectors if you use that term, since it more commonly describes the cardboard center of toilet paper rolls or the subway in London.

The word "scroll" is actually more annoying, since it has absolutely no relevance to phonographs, records or music, in any way.
Dictionary definition of a scroll: (1) a roll of parchment, paper, copper, or other material, especially one with writing on it: a scroll containing the entire Old Testament. (2)something, especially an ornament, resembling a partly unrolled sheet of paper or having a spiral or coiled form. (3) a list, roll, roster, or schedule.

I know that you were quoting from the Proxbid Ad, but whoever wrote that, obviously has no knowledge of the machine that is for sale, which makes the description suspect, at least to me.
Sure it does! You've never heard of a Scroll Victor? :roll:

"Lighten up, Francis!" :lol:
???
:lol:

Re: Edison Antique Scroll Player Serial No. H920360 Proxbid

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:37 pm
by Curt A
Inigo - Sorry, for what appears to be an overreaction... I'm off my meds... :lol: and I'm trying to lighten up...