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Edison Identification

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:01 pm
by SonnyPhono
Is this a homemade case with an Edison decal? I am just curious as the mandrel looks like it may be brass although it's tough to see from the picture. Just thought I would see what others would think about it.

http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/msg/1868610983.html

Re: Edison Identification

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:14 pm
by SonnyPhono
I emailed the owner for some more pictures. Here is what I was sent:

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I don't think I have seen anything like this. I'm not sure about the cabinet, and the motor looks intriguing. It looks like there is a motor mount hole for a screw in the second picture. So I don't think the cabinet is correct. Any input?

Re: Edison Identification

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:32 pm
by SonnyPhono
Here is a little closer view of the top works.

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Re: Edison Identification

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:58 am
by JohnM
Looks like a European mech.

Re: Edison Identification

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:58 am
by gramophoneshane
I looks like an Excelsior, but dont know what model. Having 2/4 min gearing, and the motor beneath the bedplate (as opposed to their more common Type Q set-up) would make it one of their higher end machines. Not sure about the cabinet, but the bottom moulding is the same as used on lesser machines, as is the loop for securing the lid, so it may well be correct.

Re: Edison Identification

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:05 am
by gramophoneshane
Yep, definately the works are Excelsior.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/jean-paul.agna ... /pearl.htm

Re: Edison Identification

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:44 am
by antique1973
gramophoneshane wrote:Yep, definately the works are Excelsior.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/jean-paul.agna ... /pearl.htm

Shane, if the motor and works are Excelsior do you know why the cabinet says Edison?
Was this a US incantation sold under Edison? If this thing is all original, it seems
a heck of a deal. Of course I would wonder about the condition of the diamond and
reproducer also. Finding a replacement for something that rare could be difficult at best.

Re: Edison Identification

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:36 am
by estott
Not an Edison product. I think someone refinished the cabinet and slapped on a reproduction Edison decal- actually I think the whole cabinet might be new. The top works look rough and the original case might have fallen apart.

Re: Edison Identification

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:27 am
by antique1973
estott wrote:Not an Edison product. I think someone refinished the cabinet and slapped on a reproduction Edison decal- actually I think the whole cabinet might be new. The top works look rough and the original case might have fallen apart.

Well, in a way that's good news because although I want an external horn machine
I really should wait until my cash reserves are back again. I would prefer
to have all original works and cabinet if possible.

Re: Edison Identification SOLD

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:22 pm
by antique1973
I asked the seller some details but it was Sold. Did anyone on the board
buy it by chance?