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Dumb girl fibre needle question
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:39 pm
by Tinkerbell
When I bought my IX, it had several fibre needles with it. While I don't have a fibre needle cutter, I did look at them under a magnifying glass, and it doesn't appear they were ever used (sharp angle cuts, no indentations in the sides, and they're all the same length).
So here's my dumb question... in which orientation should the needle be pointed? (Unlike a steel needle which is identical all the way around -- and cheap -- I don't want to "waste" the point by having it mounted the incorrect way.)
Thank you for tolerating my, um, ignorance in this matter.

And yes, you can go ahead and call this a dumb blonde question.
Re: Dumb girl fibre needle question
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:07 pm
by OrthoSean
You want the longest part of the needle (the point) to be facing the back of the machine with the reproducer in the rest position (assuming you're using your VV-IX). When it's down on the record, the smooth angled part of the needle will be facing you. This isn't that easy to describe, I'm finding, but I hope you can figure out what I mean!
Sean
Re: Dumb girl fibre needle question
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:27 pm
by Tinkerbell
OrthoSean wrote:You want the longest part of the needle (the point) to be facing the back of the machine with the reproducer in the rest position (assuming you're using your VV-IX). When it's down on the record, the smooth angled part of the needle will be facing you. This isn't that easy to describe, I'm finding, but I hope you can figure out what I mean!
Sean
So the point facing forward while it's playing then?
Re: Dumb girl fibre needle question
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:53 pm
by OrthoFan
Tinkerbell wrote:So the point facing forward while it's playing then?
Like this:

- Needle Point.JPG (10.28 KiB) Viewed 3413 times
Re: Dumb girl fibre needle question
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:13 pm
by Lenoirstreetguy
Here's the instruction sheet from a package of early fibres. Victor bought this company around 1910 or so, which means that this package was early. I like the concept of training your records to play with fibres. You get the impression that you should just sit the package in the machine for a week before they meet like introducing a kitten to the dog.
Jim
Re: Dumb girl fibre needle question
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:48 pm
by Couch Potato
Great package and instructions from original fiber needles. Are they significantly less harsh on the records? Perhaps all we collectors should only use such needles? Perhaps they don't work that well? Occasionally when I buy an old machine I find many of these down inside the cabinet soaking up old grease so have never ventured to try them firsthand.
Re: Dumb girl fibre needle question
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:33 pm
by estott
Fibre needles work fine, their only problem is a tendency to break down more quickly on some records than others- some records you can't get all the way through. Does absolutely no harm to use them.
Re: Dumb girl fibre needle question
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:29 pm
by Tinkerbell
Lenoirstreetguy wrote:I like the concept of training your records to play with fibres. You get the impression that you should just sit the package in the machine for a week before they meet like introducing a kitten to the dog.
Jim
Oh now that is hilarious!! Thank you for the mind picture.

Re: Dumb girl fibre needle question
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:30 pm
by Tinkerbell
Ortho_Fan wrote:Tinkerbell wrote:So the point facing forward while it's playing then?
Like this:
Needle Point.JPG
Thank you, that is what I was attempting to convey but you know being blonde and all...
Re: Dumb girl fibre needle question
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:15 pm
by OrthoFan
Tinkerbell wrote:Thank you, that is what I was attempting to convey but you know being blonde and all...
One blond to another. (Okay, one gray to a blonde, but I
used to be blond. Well, at least it's still there--most of it, anyway....)
BTW, if you're ever in a "baking" mood, here's a recipe for making your own fiber (bamboo) needles:
http://www.angelfire.com/nc3/talkingmac ... eedle.html