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Hey guys,

I need to get new springs for my Brunswick 210, the old ones are not going to work. The broken one proved irreparable and if I am going to get one, I may as well replace both. Does Ron S. make/sell springs? Who makes the best replacement springs?

I am also almost done stripping and sanding the cabinet. How do I completely clean all the hard to reach places? like the corners of the molding and under the trim? Is there a good tool that helps with this?

David

Yes, Ron Sitko sells good quality replacement springs.

How do I completely clean all the hard to reach places?

That's why I do not sand cabinets when refinishing. You risk getting a blotchy look if you can't get a uniform wood color before you start adding color back into the wood.

Jerry Blais

Jerry B. wrote:Yes, Ron Sitko sells good quality replacement springs.

How do I completely clean all the hard to reach places?

That's why I do not sand cabinets when refinishing. You risk getting a blotchy look if you can't get a uniform wood color before you start adding color back into the wood.

Jerry Blais

How do you usually do it? just strip the finish and use the original stain again?

dzavracky wrote: How do I completely clean all the hard to reach places? like the corners of the molding and under the trim? Is there a good tool that helps with this?

David

Yes, there is a Micro Sander available from Micro Mark: https://www.micromark.com/MicroLux-Micr ... gLK9vD_BwE

Or, you can make your own: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orBqd6w5T4E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK_dpWi7k5o

That make your own video is neat Curt... Thanks for the hint. Tom

How do you usually do it? just strip the finish and use the original stain again?

Generally the color is good and uniform.. It's the finish you want to replace.

I strip.
Fill the grain. Remove excess.
Stain.
Apply first finish coat and maybe a second coat.
Apply decals.
Apply more finish coats.

Jerry

Jerry B. wrote:

How do you usually do it? just strip the finish and use the original stain again?

Generally the color is good and uniform.. It's the finish you want to replace.

I strip.
Fill the grain. Remove excess.
Stain.
Apply first finish coat and maybe a second coat.
Apply decals.
Apply more finish coats.

Jerry

Pics or it didn't happen!

On the other hand... never mind.

gramophone-georg wrote:

Jerry B. wrote:

How do you usually do it? just strip the finish and use the original stain again?

Generally the color is good and uniform.. It's the finish you want to replace.

I strip.
Fill the grain. Remove excess.
Stain.
Apply first finish coat and maybe a second coat.
Apply decals.
Apply more finish coats.

Jerry

Pics or it didn't happen!

On the other hand... never mind.

do you just touch up stain the cabinet?

I used our search feature and searched for

Good Color For Edison Cylinder Cabinets

. It compared the original color and finish on an Edison Standard with a refinished Edison Fireside that I had just finished. That Fireside was not touched with sandpaper. Good luck with your projects and please do ask lots of questions.

Jerry B.

I checked the pictures of your Brunswick from a previous thread to confirm it's mahogany. I think most of us would agree that refinishing mahogany is much more difficult than refinishing the same machine in oak. On a mahogany upright the area under the lid usually looks terrific. A refinisher's goal should be to match the outside finish to the inside. I've done it with something approaching success but have never been totally pleased. I would love to see photos and details of someone's project that is totally successful. Anyone?

As you mentioned, sometimes it appears that different types of wood were used in cabinet making. I think that's true. The manufacturer achieved uniform color because some of the color was actually in and part of the finish coat. It is hard for a collector to replicate that process.

Most of the machines that we love and collect appear to be, most commonly, oak or mahogany. But if you look at and really read Victor's description of a Victor O, it say it has a "mahogany finish." It doesn't say it has a mahogany cabinet, it says it has a mahogany finish. The machine was made from a more common wood and made to appear mahogany.

Jerry B.