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Sensation Stomp and Whiteman Stomp Paul Whiteman 1927

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 9:31 am
by melvind
These two sides are really something and they are both on the same record. I was a bit surprised when I first listened to them the other day. This record came to me by George's Godfather Sale in the Music Trader. The records are in near mint condition, though I can tell that Whiteman Stomp was played a bit more. But, I think the better of the two is Sensation Stomp which is why I listed the B side first below. They are recorded very loudly, more than about any record I have transferred. I had to do a couple of tries to get things as they are now. These two sides show just how great the musicians in this orchestra were.

Sensation Stomp by Paul Whiteman and His Orchestra 1927

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Whiteman Stomp by Paul Whiteman and His Orchestra 1927

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https://youtu.be/hmWqoOgaU5w

Re: Sensation Stomp and Whiteman Stomp Paul Whiteman 1927

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 1:35 pm
by gramophone-georg
I agree that Sensation is the "better" side... but not by much, LOL. Yes, these sides are LOUD which is why it's so difficult to find listenable copies that don't blast- it doesn't take many plays on an era- correct gramophone to wear these.

These two sides show just how great the musicians in this orchestra were.

Here's the real meat- although Tommy Dorsey was already present on these sides, this was recorded just before the even more augmented Whiteman orchestra with Bix, Tram, Venuti, Lang, Jimmy Dorsey, and Adrian Rollini was formed after Whiteman wound up with all the Goldkette guys. BUT- Don Redman of McKinney's Cotton Pickers was the arranger. This was just as Whiteman was beginning what I call his "Sgt. Pepper phase"- he was moving from a mostly "society" sound to real jazz and other experimental music.

It always amazed me how "serious" jazz scholars always poo- poohed Whiteman, not only as a serious jazz musician, but as likely one of THE most important influences on American music overall. Obviously he was well recognized by other jazz musicians at the time- look at who the composers of the "Whiteman Stomp" were. He was like the Godfather, in a way- the path to success went through Whiteman.

But the tradition goes back even further, to the real "Pops" Whiteman- Wilberforce. Wilberforce was a music instructor- and a damn good one. One well kept secret aside from the fact that Paul owed his musical prowess and eye for talent to his dad is that others did too- Jimmie Lunceford was a student, for example. Yet, one sees Paul willfully diminished, Wilberforce forgotten, and Denver never mentioned as being of any importance in jazz history.

Without Whiteman, there would be no Dorseys, no Bix, no Tram, no Venuti/ Lang, no Bill Challis, no Gershwin, no Grofe, no Teagarden, no Crosby, no Hoagy Carmichael, no Ramona Davies... among others. Sure, all were capable and the absence of Whiteman wouldn't have changed that- but it's doubtful that they would have become the household names they did without Whiteman's promotion and advocacy.

One might argue that the Dorseys and Frankie Trumbauer would have made their great OKeh sides anyways, but that's just not true. One of the interesting and mainly forgotten things about Whiteman was that he not only allowed his sidemen to make their own records under their names- he encouraged it and often made the arrangements. The catch was that you had to use other Whiteman personnel in your sessions- not exclusively, but some had to be there. It was an arrangement that gave the world so much fine music... "Bix? Tram? Dorsey? Lang? Who the hell are these guys? What makes them think they can sell records? Nobody knows who they are! Nobody will buy this awful crap anyways!" likely would have been on the gravestone of jazz without Whiteman. When Whiteman spoke, record guys listened.

OK, I'm off my soap box now. :lol:

Dan, as always, your transfer of these sides just rocks. :D Are you related to the Sooys, by chance?

Re: Sensation Stomp and Whiteman Stomp Paul Whiteman 1927

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 10:02 pm
by Wolfe
Both great sides musically. Good recording quality. I'd like to pick up a copy of this record someday.

Re: Sensation Stomp and Whiteman Stomp Paul Whiteman 1927

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 10:57 pm
by phonojim
Whiteman Stomp and Sensation Stomp were both recorded August 11, 1927 in Camden, NJ. Both Dorseys are present on this session, however Bix and Tram are not. The first session including Bix was on November 18, 1927 (Washboard Blues) and Tram shows up on Nov. 23 1927 (Changes). Info per Jazz Records by Brian Rust.

Jim

Re: Sensation Stomp and Whiteman Stomp Paul Whiteman 1927

Posted: Sun May 31, 2020 11:07 pm
by Wolfe
I thought this had the sound of the Trinity Church recording studio that Victor had in Camden. DAHR confirms it is.

Re: Sensation Stomp and Whiteman Stomp Paul Whiteman 1927

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:36 am
by gramophone-georg
phonojim wrote:Whiteman Stomp and Sensation Stomp were both recorded August 11, 1927 in Camden, NJ. Both Dorseys are present on this session, however Bix and Tram are not. The first session including Bix was on November 18, 1927 (Washboard Blues) and Tram shows up on Nov. 23 1927 (Changes). Info per Jazz Records by Brian Rust.

Jim
Ha! You are correct. Somehow I missed Jimmy! The Rust discogs are quite invaluable.