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Does anyone have info on how to rebuild the motor with 2 spring barrels?

Hello! It looks like you just joined the forum, so welcome!
There are numerous posts and youtube videos covering spring replacement and parts suppliers.
You can type in your keywords in the "search" area at the top of the index page and you'll find a lot of useful information for beginners.
Here's an example searching "two spring barrel" "

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=45086&hilit=two+spring+barrel

Ron Sitko is a fine parts supplier and he also replaces springs in their barrels at a very reasonable price.
He's only contacted by phone: 518 371 8549

Good luck with your project!
Bob

tofinal-4 wrote:Does anyone have info on how to rebuild the motor with 2 spring barrels?

Sadly, not me. I tried to do a tear down and cleaning on mine, but too many mishaps kept happening to the point I decided to send the motor off before I do more damage that would cost me extra. I hear someone by the name of George Velloma will do a tear down and cleaning and replacement of springs?

With a C suffix on the tag, your Victrola is c. 1913-1914. Should have an Exhibition reproducer & a "flat" crank as in, the bent part is a flat piece of metal instead of a bent rod. It is old enough to look awesome and new enough to be a reliable player--once you get the motor fixed up.

Welcome to the TMF forum! Stick around. What you don't know, someone will tell you, eventually. It's a fun way to learn.

As far as that motor: The first thing you'll have to do is disassemble the Victrola. If this is scaring you, definitely call a repairman but you'll have to disassemble it anyway. No worries. It's not hard.

Take the crank out (turn it backwards, counterclockwise, until it comes off.) Now take the platter off, and undo the bolts at the edges holding the motor board down. The motor board should pick right up and you can unhook the lift underneath. You'll need some good flat-head screwdrivers.

You could either pack & ship the whole motor & everything, or you could take the motor off the board (saving the felt washers between the iron motor & the board; those are your shock absorbers.)

If you want to rebuild the motor yourself, the videos on YouTube by "Chilldude2007" or something like that are pretty good. Double spring barrels are easier to work on than the later motors with one barrel. Sure, there are more parts, but it's still easier. Searching around on the Talking Machine Forum here about Victor rebuilds is going to be a great hand for you. If you can fix a lawnmower, you can fix a Victrola.

One other thing you will want: rebuild the reproducer. Exhibitions don't sound very good as they age. My first Victrola is only a few months newer than yours; the reproducer fell off the second day I owned it. Eventually I bought a Victor machine that had been in storage for 90 to 100 years. The reproducer had hardened inside and sounded terrible. The rubber flange in the back gets bad with time so you will want to buy a rebuild kit on eBay & make it over again. The Exhibition is probably the simplest reproducer to fix though.

You could try restoring this--Or if you have a hobbyist nearby I'm sure you'd find assistance. Have you got any pictures of it? Where did you find it?

whatch this guy he show the right way https://www.youtube.com/user/1974hurt?f ... ucU5Rn9cYQ

Thanks to all I will use all the info you have given me and hope this is my first machine of a great collection.

barnettrp21122 wrote:Hello! It looks like you just joined the forum, so welcome!
There are numerous posts and youtube videos covering spring replacement and parts suppliers.
You can type in your keywords in the "search" area at the top of the index page and you'll find a lot of useful information for beginners.
Here's an example searching "two spring barrel" "

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=45086&hilit=two+spring+barrel

Ron Sitko is a fine parts supplier and he also replaces springs in their barrels at a very reasonable price.
He's only contacted by phone: 518 371 8549

Good luck with your project!
Bob

Thanks for your advice I bought this from an online auction with out seeing it in person just the picture it also was on top of a Poole record cabinet not in very good shape but I've been stripping and refinishing the The outside of the player to it's original look, the record cabinet was so bad till I started stripping it is a Beautiful quartered oak I had to reinforce it.
When I'm finished in about 2 weeks? I'll put pictures on. I ordered a kit to rebuild the reproducer, but since this is my 1st try I think I will call the man you suggested and see if I could send him the motor board and have him rebuild it. all I know on that is barrel can turn by hand and the other one is stationary . I need to find a winding crank for this it came with none.
Thanks again,
Frank

[quote="cheryla"]whatch this guy he show the right way https://www.youtube.com/user/1974hurt?f ... ucU5Rn9cYQ[/quote

Thanks I have been watching him and it's great for me to learn.