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Do you know what kind of brake this G&T Monarch machine would mount?
Thanks,
Enrico

Do not take my words as facts, but to me this looks like the Mahogany Monarch from the years 1907-1911, on page 32 in the "His Masters Gramophone" book. The decal also corresponds with that period, and the address of HMV on the decal tells that your machine is from November 1907- the end of 1908, if I understand the information in the book correctly. If so, I believe also the Cannon brake is the correct brake for this machine. But again, don't take my words as facts, as always the wise words from the HMV experts are appreciated:)
I know I am walking in a minefield now with the information given, but what is life without some excitement

This looks to be the speed control!

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nostalgia wrote:Do not take my words as facts, but to me this looks like the Mahogany Monarch from the years 1907-1911, on page 32 in the "His Masters Gramophone" book. The decal also corresponds with that period, and the address of HMV on the decal tells that your machine is from November 1907- the end of 1908, if I understand the information in the book correctly. If so, I believe also the Cannon brake is the correct brake for this machine. But again, don't take my words as facts, as always the wise words from the HMV experts are appreciated:)
I know I am walking in a minefield now with the information given, but what is life without some excitement

Yes, I agree with you! But it seems that someone has mounted another brake in the past. Can you see the circular mark on the cabinet?

soundgen wrote:This looks to be the speed control!

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Thank you Mark, I should have many of these among my spares!

nostalgia wrote:Do not take my words as facts, but to me this looks like the Mahogany Monarch from the years 1907-1911, on page 32 in the "His Masters Gramophone" book. The decal also corresponds with that period, and the address of HMV on the decal tells that your machine is from November 1907- the end of 1908, if I understand the information in the book correctly. If so, I believe also the Cannon brake is the correct brake for this machine. But again, don't take my words as facts, as always the wise words from the HMV experts are appreciated:)
I know I am walking in a minefield now with the information given, but what is life without some excitement

It's also a pity that I don't have that book.. But I noticed that is hard to find..

Looks like the “Doric” model. They go as late as having the” dog & gramophone” transfer on the front as well.
Would’ve had the “ Cannon brake” as mentioned above. Wouldn’t be to hard to find I would have thought.

Stephen.

It may be a Mahogany Junior Monarch. It is impossible to tell with only a picture of the back and not seeing the front or sides. However you can confirm this if it has a single spring motor. Obviously with a double Spring motor it is a double spring Mahogany Monarch.

I guess what has happened is that the original Cannon Brake (also called the Bullet Brake) became tired or the lever snapped so it was replaced with the circular based brake shown below. This is one of the most common generic brakes of the horn gramophone period and explains the marks you are seeing.

Yes, it's a 1908 mahogany Junior Monarch (known as 'Doric' in the Antipodes, but not in the UK nor, as far as I know, in the rest of Europe. The cannon brake would be correct, and the type of speed control shown by Soundgen is correct except that his is from a much later machine (possibly a 1930s radiogram!); the original ones had no lettering or arrows on them.

Enrico wrote:

nostalgia wrote:Do not take my words as facts, but to me this looks like the Mahogany Monarch from the years 1907-1911, on page 32 in the "His Masters Gramophone" book. The decal also corresponds with that period, and the address of HMV on the decal tells that your machine is from November 1907- the end of 1908, if I understand the information in the book correctly. If so, I believe also the Cannon brake is the correct brake for this machine. But again, don't take my words as facts, as always the wise words from the HMV experts are appreciated:)
I know I am walking in a minefield now with the information given, but what is life without some excitement

It's also a pity that I don't have that book.. But I noticed that is hard to find..

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/His-Masters- ... Sw5PBe28DN