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Hi everyone,

My name is Jacob and I'm from Chicago. A few months ago, I acquired my grandfather's Victor Victrola X. I'd be happy to post the serial number (+ some pictures), but I did a bit of research and found the machine was produced way back in 1917. What's interesting is that the machine is a family heirloom, gifted to my great-grandparents on their wedding day, but each of them immigrated to the United States in the mid-1920's, so they presumably were the second owners. When the machine was brand new, my great-grandfather was fighting for Austria-Hungary in World War I. My grandfather took possession of the machine when my great-grandfather passed away, and in my grandfather's final years, we bonded over playing old records. He enjoyed Gene Krupa, but we'd also listen to the orchestral music purchased by my great-grandfather after receiving the machine. I've made some mistakes, like trying to play a 1960's George Gershwin record checked out from the Chicago Public Library, but I'm trying my best to be a good steward. That being said, I had a few questions:

1) Does anyone have a recommendation for appropriate needles? I'd been using some needles that I'm assuming my grandfather purchased, but I'm out.

2) I've read some on the refinish or don't refinish debate and I think I'd like to keep the original finish. That said, I'd like to try to revive it somewhat. Does anyone have a recommendation for wood care products? I'd been eyeing a few Guardsman-brand products.

Welcome to the forum. If you search the forum, all your questions will have answers. Inherenting an antique phonograph makes it very special. Congratulations.

Welcome. Many of us wish that we had a family piece, or at least the knowledge of some history for a particular machine. I have two machines that were passed down from the original owner, but only one with documentation. Your machine is not uncommon, but having a family connection is. Regarding the machine, the reproducer and motor should probably be serviced. Only use a needle once so that you don’t destroy your records. Needles are readily available.

Do you have to family records as well? It would be something to sit and listen to the same sounds that your ancestors did on the same machine. I hope that you treasure what you have and that it inspires you to explore the phonograph collecting hobby. As with antique music boxes, you can crank it up, close your eyes and go back in time. I think that many on this site would agree that it a special gift.

"Generally speaking", shellac records pressed before the mid 1930s are appropriate for your machine. Later records are made of a different composition and will wear rapidly if played with steel needles. Vinyl records will be destroyed by trying to play them... Good luck with your new acquisition...

If you are searching for needles, service, or other needs, contact Ron Sitko. His address and telephone number are in the Links Section. He has been very helpful.

Welcome to the forum and enjoy the Victrola.

Don

Some photos would be great!

As Django pointed out, in addition to any required motor work, if it has not already been done, the reproducer, AKA "sound box", should be overhauled with fresh gaskets, etc., before playing too many records. This will greatly enhance the sound quality and minimize record wear. There are some tips about it on this page: https://www.nipperhead.com/old/rep_exhib.htm

OrthoFan