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Hi,

I was able to purchase a Herzog cylinder cabinet, it's the same as a model 809 except in cylinder set up. It has the interior shelves but the shelves on the doors are missing. I'm a woodworker and can reproduce the shelves. I have the curvature of the door to go by but need a photo or a description of the basic "footprint" of one of these door shelves. I can use the center to center measurements of the remaining cylinder rings of the existing shelves to scale measurements by. Would anyone be willing to take a photo of the top of one of the shelves for me to work from? A simple photo of the footprint and shape would really be appreciated,

Thank you

D.Edwards

Darold,

Here are a couple of Herzog 710 cabinets, but be aware that these are early production examples where they used wooden braces to support the door shelves. Herzog quickly modified this design with wire braces that attached to the center of the shelves. Check your door for signs of the wire braces (little holes centered inside the door). If you have that type, I'll dig out another cabinet that's currently buried in my basement and take more pictures for you.

George P.

George,

Thank you for taking the photos. That footprint of the cylinder arrangement was exactly what I needed. I had kind of forgotten about that side support piece of trim "stiffner". It's nice to see the original architecture. I really appreciate your help.

D.Edwards

You're very welcome, Darold.

Again, be aware of the two different types of door shelves, as the wire bracing modified the peg placement of the wood bracing. I'll be happy to check that other cabinet if you need it.

George P.

What are the light blue cylinders? I’m not familiar with them.

KCW wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:46 pm What are the light blue cylinders? I’m not familiar with them.

For a very short period, Indestructible used this light blue celluloid for its records. An Edison dealer (Clarence Ferguson) claimed that this light blue celluloid was originally meant for Edison, but that the company refused it so Indestructible bought it. I'd take that with a grain of salt, but that was the story...

Here's an article that will show you all the basic types of cylinders you're likely to encounter:

https://www.antiquephono.org/basic-anti ... onal-tips/

George P.