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What is it with this HMV 102?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:50 am
by nostalgia
Put in a few words...what is it exactly about this green + red !! HMV 102?
I have never seen such a machine before, but as we know, I was away from the hobby for 30 years before returning a couple of years ago, so I of course have missed a lot....
Repainted..or ?
Re: What is it with this HMV 102?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:58 am
by Yorch
Looks repainted to me, there is paint on the back hinge.
Re: What is it with this HMV 102?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:01 am
by nostalgia
Yes, when checking the photos more, it must be repainted. Better still leave the post as a general warning, what NOT to do with a gramophone.
Re: What is it with this HMV 102?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:06 am
by Yorch
Hahahahaha yes!
Re: What is it with this HMV 102?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:22 am
by Steve
It was not black. It has chromed hinges, handle clasps and trims which the black version never had.
It started out red but turned green with a spray gun and a bad idea!
I bet the red faded very badly, prompting an earlier owner to test his not inconsiderable painting skills out with some (appropriate for HMV) green paint.
Re: What is it with this HMV 102?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:47 am
by epigramophone
If the previous owner felt compelled to repaint the machine, he should have matched the original red.
I wonder what colour turntable felt lies beneath the record.
Re: What is it with this HMV 102?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:46 am
by Inigo
There's something strange under the lid. The red nipper seems original, flush applied to the lid. But the later (?) green painting seems to be applied to another layer, so the nipper area is depressed from the rest of the lid. It is recessed, instead of being flush... What's that? Did they apply a cover to the inner lid area, leaving the original nipper square recessed?
Re: What is it with this HMV 102?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:07 am
by nostalgia
Inigo, this was actually my first observation and why I posted the photos. I started to think it could be a special edition or something because of this layer difference around the Nipper trademark. I have asked the seller for a photo of the turntable...
Re: What is it with this HMV 102?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:52 pm
by Phono48
Inigo wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:46 am
There's something strange under the lid. The red nipper seems original, flush applied to the lid. But the later (?) green painting seems to be applied to another layer, so the nipper area is depressed from the rest of the lid. It is recessed, instead of being flush... What's that? Did they apply a cover to the inner lid area, leaving the original nipper square recessed?
There's nothing strange about it! The photo shows the centre of the raised square panel fixed in the lid. I've just checked 10 different 102s, and they all have the same sunken area round the HMV transfer. The only ones that don't are the 102E and H, which have no raised panel in the lid.
Barry
Re: What is it with this HMV 102?
Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:49 pm
by Steve
Just what Barry said!