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In preparation for another article in AP, it would be very helpful to have a copy of the Berliner/National Gramophone Supplement for MAY of 1898.

This would have been Supplement #6 (in a Series) to the original "Annual"/Main Berliner Catalog of ca Sep 1897.

It is NOT listed in Charosh's fine book (pb), on p. xix (his Sources).

It would also be helpful to know if Berliner record #693Z (by Depew) has ever been seen (other than in an old ad).

Thanks!

Allen

This doesn’t really help you right now, but thought I would mention it. About 40 years ago when I first started collecting records and didn’t really know squat, I spent most of a day at the Library of Congress randomly requesting and looking at various things that the public was granted access to. I remember looking at some very early record catalogs or supplements, mainly little folders of available Berliner records. These were part of the John Secrist collection. I mention it here because I’m curious to learn if anyone else has recently seen any of this collection. Or has it been squirreled away from public access so as to preserve it?

Somewhere there is an old gramophone co uk catalogue of this year... and they must be all Berliners. I will check it and come back later (i have a copy in my pdf files, away from me just now).

AllenKoe wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 3:17 pm In preparation for another article in AP, it would be very helpful to have a copy of the Berliner/National Gramophone Supplement for MAY of 1898.

It would also be helpful to know if Berliner record #693(Z) by Depew has ever been seen (other than in an old Cosmo ad).

Allen

Good news, Wayne and I have found that this unusual record does exist. It is on David G.'s fascinating website and is probably the source for the #693 listing in Paul Charosh's book. The disc was made in NYC by Depew on Jan. 7, 1898. It is not yet a playable audio file.

Paul calls it an "Extract" in his book (p. 43) because the title says, "From his speech..."

Hopefully, US Berliner (Record) Supplement No. 6 (ca May 1898) will eventually turn up...

Allen

Finally I checked my old catalogues without success. The ones from 1898, 1899 and 1900 are surely full of Berliner type records, some are imported from the US, but mostly all them are the ones recorded in France, UK and Germany by the gramophone co. Among the American imported ones, 693 it's not listed. I've checked even later catalogues up to 1907, and no trace of that record in the European catalogues. Sorry...
BTW, my 1898 catalogue is of the gramophone co, of November 16th.

AllenKoe wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:01 pm

AllenKoe wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 3:17 pm In preparation for another article in AP, it would be very helpful to have a copy of the Berliner/National Gramophone Supplement for MAY of 1898.

It would also be helpful to know if Berliner record #693(Z) by Depew has ever been seen (other than in an old ad).

Allen

Good news, Wayne and I have found that this unusual record does exist. It is on David G.'s fascinating website and is probably the source for the #693 listing in Paul Charosh's book. The disc was made in NYC by Depew in Jan. 1898. It is not yet a playable audio file.

Hopefully, Berliner (Record) Supplement No. 6 (ca May 1898) will eventually turn up...

Allen

Yes, Berliner #693 "His Speech On Forefathers Day" by Chauncey Depew was recorded in New York on Jan 7 1898. Interestingly, the cut drawing of #693 used in a National Gram-o-phone ad published in Good Housekeeping magazine (1898) shows it as #693Z.

The May 1898 Berliner record supplement Allen is hoping to discover was produced by the National Gram-o-phone Company USA.