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Edison Standard bedplate stamped with serial number too

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:16 pm
by Roaring20s
Was this common practice?
While cleaning a very dirty machine and I decided to off the ID Plate.
Found that the bedplate was stamped with the same number.
I thought that was odd. :?

James.
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Re: Edison Standard bedplate stamped with serial number too

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:22 pm
by TinfoilPhono
I have seen that on a Model A Home.

Re: Edison Standard bedplate stamped with serial number too

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:44 pm
by phonogfp
I've seen this too.

George P.

Re: Edison Standard bedplate stamped with serial number too

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:49 pm
by Roaring20s
Forgot to mention this is a Standard B
Thanks for the input! :)

James.

Re: Edison Standard bedplate stamped with serial number too

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:36 pm
by TinfoilPhono
While I don't know it for a fact, I imagine that the bedplates were stamped with a serial number during manufacture, probably before painting, and that number was copied onto a patent plate in final assembly. Just a guess but it would seem logical.

Re: Edison Standard bedplate stamped with serial number too

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:40 am
by ChesterCheetah18
I found the same on a Fireside Model A I used to own.

Steve

Re: Edison Standard bedplate stamped with serial number too

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:19 am
by VanEpsFan1914
I have found this on a Standard A, a Home B, and a Standard E. Both Standards were sold.

Re: Edison Standard bedplate stamped with serial number too

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:54 pm
by Canuk Phonographs
I just finished restoring an Edison Standard A and found the serial number under the ID plate and stamped into the carriage rail.
I thought it was well marked.
Blain

Re: Edison Standard bedplate stamped with serial number too

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:43 pm
by martinola
I believe that the “hidden” serial numbers arose out of the Edison company’s increasing desire to detect jobbers illegally discounting machines. To conceal their activity from the Edison management, dishonest jobbers would grind off or obliterate serial numbers that could otherwise be traced to them. I’ve seen 2 or 3 likely examples of this kind of alteration over the years.

By the end of the New style model A Standard machines - beside the patent plate, serial numbers were also stamped in the top of the bedplate casting (as seen here), as well as on the bottom of the bedplate casting - under the motor and hidden by a smear of black stuff that resembles sealing wax. Whether or not this practice was ever useful in prosecution, remains to be seen. ;)

- Martin