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Cameo Record Sleeves

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 4:30 pm
by Ho_Hum
I noticed that despite their commonality and the piles of them I have around, I have neither seen nor owned a Cameo Records sleeve. Does anybody know what they look like, or know if they even made their own unique sleeves?

-Casey

Re: Cameo Record Sleeves

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:18 pm
by Dischoard
Quite fragile and one-sided...
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Re: Cameo Record Sleeves

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:19 pm
by Inigo
What a beauty... If they were so thin and weak, that's why they are rare today... They simply didn't survive.
Although CBS Columbia sleeves, Decca and RCA Victor sleeves were also made of thin delicate paper, but still they're by the millions today. I suppose the difference is on the produced quantities...

Re: Cameo Record Sleeves

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:24 am
by Orchorsol
With nice sleeves in that sort of condition I often use gummed paper tape on three sides to repair them. Of course they end up with a brown paper border, but at least they're then strong enough and have a new life. I find it strangely satisfying to do.

Re: Cameo Record Sleeves

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2022 5:01 am
by epigramophone
Here is an even rarer Cameo cover. Sleeves are for vinyl LP records. That term did not come into general use until the 1950's.

Re: Cameo Record Sleeves

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:03 am
by Ho_Hum
Dischoard wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:18 pm Quite fragile and one-sided...

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Very interesting! I wonder if they changed the design once they got rid of the border around the logo on the label later on.

Re: Cameo Record Sleeves

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:15 am
by Dischoard
epigramophone wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 5:01 am Here is an even rarer Cameo cover. Sleeves are for vinyl LP records. That term did not come into general use until the 1950's.
So sorry that my continued use of the term causes consternation, while I understand that they used to be called covers, covers and sleeves now mean different things and so I adapt. I suppose it would be like if we still referred to the original motor cars as "horseless carriages". I am not doubting that there are some that do ;)

Re: Cameo Record Sleeves

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:08 am
by epigramophone
Dischoard wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:15 am
epigramophone wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 5:01 am Here is an even rarer Cameo cover. Sleeves are for vinyl LP records. That term did not come into general use until the 1950's.
So sorry that my continued use of the term causes consternation, while I understand that they used to be called covers, covers and sleeves now mean different things and so I adapt. I suppose it would be like if we still referred to the original motor cars as "horseless carriages". I am not doubting that there are some that do ;)
By way of background, some years ago the CLPGS wanted to run a series of magazine articles on record covers/envelopes/sleeves. My friend the late Tom Little began the series in the Spring 2005 magazine under the title "Sleeve Search". This title came in for some criticism, and it was decided that in keeping with it's status as an educational charity the CLPGS should always aim for historical accuracy, so the title "Covers Covered" was adopted. After Tom's passing I took over the series in 2016.

According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the first use of the term "sleeve" as a container for records appeared in an advertisement in the USA in 1951. Another mention appeared in the New York Times in 1953 with the word in inverted commas, suggesting that it was still relatively new.

Re: Cameo Record Sleeves

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:22 am
by CarlosV
Dischoard wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:15 am
epigramophone wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 5:01 am Here is an even rarer Cameo cover. Sleeves are for vinyl LP records. That term did not come into general use until the 1950's.
So sorry that my continued use of the term causes consternation, while I understand that they used to be called covers, covers and sleeves now mean different things and so I adapt. I suppose it would be like if we still referred to the original motor cars as "horseless carriages". I am not doubting that there are some that do ;)
The discussion above reminds me that everything that is black , flat, round and has grooves is now called a ¨vinyl¨. So if you go to a thrift shop asking for shellacs or 78 rpm records, the salesperson will likely tell you they don't have it, while if you ask for old vinyls, you will be shown to piles of LPs, 45 rpms and even 78s if you are lucky. Historically inaccurate, I concede to Roger, but practical. But back to the main subject, the Cameo child record cover (or sleeve, whatever you prefer) is very nice!

Re: Cameo Record Sleeves

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:02 am
by 52089
You can see a Cameo Kids label here, on one of my old posts:

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