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Phonograph Feature in Japan
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:27 am
by antique1973
Here is an interesting video from Japan featuring various phonographs.
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Re: Phonograph Feature in Japan
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:47 am
by estott
Nice collection, but in most cases he's playing records 30 or 40 years too late for the machines. Maybe people don't like really old music?
Re: Phonograph Feature in Japan
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:13 am
by novkev24
Dispite the fact I don't speek Japanese, that video was pretty neat. I noticed at one point, it appeared that he was playing a vinyl record on his machine. You could see the record tearing up!
Re: Phonograph Feature in Japan
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:27 am
by antique1973
novkev24 wrote:Dispite the fact I don't speek Japanese, that video was pretty neat. I noticed at one point, it appeared that he was playing a vinyl record on his machine. You could see the record tearing up!
Yeah, that was hard to watch! Hopefully that was just a demo to teach people NOT to
play vinyl with steel needles.

Re: Phonograph Feature in Japan
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:50 am
by recordo
I thought it was an acetate?
Re: Phonograph Feature in Japan
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:07 am
by estott
Acetate, Vinyl, they're both the same in that a steel needle in an acoustic reproducer is going to rip them up.
Re: Phonograph Feature in Japan
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:38 am
by Starkton
That brings me to the question what was the usual needle type to reproduce Acetates in the 1930s?
Re: Phonograph Feature in Japan
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:22 am
by gramophoneshane
HMV had steel "Trailer" needles for domestic use, but I would imagine radio stations etc would have used a jewel tipped stylus.
Other companies recommended "shadowgraph" needles, but those I've seen look no different to normal steel loudtone needles, except the shaft is often painted. Trailer needles definately work the best in my experience. They even work well on an acoustic machine.
Re: Phonograph Feature in Japan
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:18 am
by novkev24
gramophoneshane wrote:HMV had steel "Trailer" needles for domestic use, but I would imagine radio stations etc would have used a jewel tipped stylus.
Other companies recommended "shadowgraph" needles, but those I've seen look no different to normal steel loudtone needles, except the shaft is often painted. Trailer needles definately work the best in my experience. They even work well on an acoustic machine.
What exactly is a Trailer needle and what benefits do they offer over standard steel needles?
Re: Phonograph Feature in Japan
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:26 pm
by AZ*
Interesting video. Thanks for sharing!
The encounter with the busted record at around 3:33 is very realistic. How many times do I wade through dozens or hundreds of records and finally find a good one, only to discover that it is damaged? Way too often, sadly.
What's the model of machine that plays around 3:45 in the video? (I'm not familiar with all the EMG and Expert models.)
I wish I knew what they were saying.