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Victor paper mache horn -- SF Bay Area

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:13 pm
by OrthoFan
I spotted this today:

Victrola horn - $100 (daly city) -- https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/atq/7558646764.html
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I've never seen one quite like this.

OrthoFan

Re: Victor paper mache horn -- SF Bay Area

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:28 am
by Garret
Someone should grab this presuming the end is still okay.

Re: Victor paper mache horn -- SF Bay Area

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:13 pm
by OrthoFan
Yeah, I thought there'd be some interest in it, or at least a few comments, since you don't come across Victor paper mache horns all that often -- viewtopic.php?p=128330

OF

Re: Victor paper mache horn -- SF Bay Area

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:26 am
by Roaring20s
Sold in 1905 ...
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;)

Re: Victor paper mache horn -- SF Bay Area

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:53 am
by poodling around
Roaring20s wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:26 am Sold in 1905 ...
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;)
Lovely horn.

So one version sold for 8 dollars in 1905. According to one website that is 2,709 dollars 'in todays money'. Just for the horn. Some rich people around I guess.

https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflat ... ?amount=80

Re: Victor paper mache horn -- SF Bay Area

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:24 am
by epigramophone
Papier Mache consists of pulped paper, sometimes reinforced with textiles, and bound with an adhesive such as wallpaper paste.
The Victor horn does not correspond to this recipe. The advertisement pictured states that it is made from fibre, paper and wood.
HMV offered a similar compressed fibre horn as an optional extra. It was made from a composition known as Flaxite.
The HMV horn is seldom seen, but Flaxite was widely used in the manufacture of cheap suitcases.

Re: Victor paper mache horn -- SF Bay Area

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:11 am
by Jerry B.
I bought a fancy cased Victor D with one of these horns. I believe it came through time together. I love it and have always wondered if that horn inspired Victor to make wood horns. The decal says "Victor Distributing and Export Co. New York." The decal implies it's a Victor product but I have doubts. Could this company be a large Victor jobber and used the Victor trademark scene with Victor's approval? So many questions!

Jerry B.

Re: Victor paper mache horn -- SF Bay Area

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:57 am
by phonogfp
Jerry B. wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:11 am The decal says "Victor Distributing and Export Co. New York." The decal implies it's a Victor product but I have doubts. Could this company be a large Victor jobber and used the Victor trademark scene with Victor's approval? So many questions!

Jerry B.
You're exactly right, Jerry. This was a Victor Jobber; not the VTMCo.

George P.

Re: Victor paper mache horn -- SF Bay Area

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:50 pm
by Roaring20s
poodling around wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:53 am
Roaring20s wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:26 am Sold in 1905 ...
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;)
Lovely horn.

So one version sold for 8 dollars in 1905. According to one website that is 2,709 dollars 'in todays money'. Just for the horn. Some rich people around I guess.

https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflat ... ?amount=80
That little advertisement provides so much information about that horn. :geek:
You can search for other ads by this clever jobber and get a feel for them. :coffee:

Re: Victor paper mache horn -- SF Bay Area

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:50 pm
by OrthoFan
Many thanks for the input. I wonder if anyone is going to grab it. (I'm surprised Peter F didn't jump on it.)
poodling around wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:53 am ..... So one version sold for 8 dollars in 1905. According to one website that is 2,709 dollars 'in today's money'. Just for the horn. Some rich people around I guess.

https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflat ... ?amount=80
Thanks for posting that link, since it goes farther back than the inflation calculator I normally use.

I was a little puzzled by that, and double-checked the site. I noticed, instead of $8.00, you had entered $80.00:
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$8.00 (1905 USD) would be $270.92, which would be more in line with what I'd expect for the times--still expensive though.

OrthoFan