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HMV identification
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 6:27 pm
by ticticdok
I need some help on identifying a HMV European phonograph I purchased. Can Anyone fill me in with any details on the machine? I know its a Victor machine but for the European market. The case is a mahogany one, built similar to a Victor 5. It also has a tag " Palmer Arcade Sunderland". Any help would be appreciated. Thanks... John.
Re: HMV identification
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:19 pm
by epigramophone
I suspect that this machine has been heavily restored. A picture of the horn, if present, might confirm this.
Either the metal fittings have been gold plated or have been stripped to the bare brass and lacquered.
Neither would have been the original finish on a Senior Monarch, a Model VIIa or a Model 7, all of which had nickel plated fittings.
Re: HMV identification
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:26 pm
by ticticdok
The pictures were poor here. The fittings are all nickel, but appear to have that gold tone to them.
Re: HMV identification
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2023 4:38 am
by Steve
It's a No. 7 and appears to have been restored. Certainly the mahogany cabinet has been stripped and repolished.
Re: HMV identification
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:16 am
by Oedipus
Is there a factory label underneath, with a date stamp? It is clearly a late No 7 (probably 1918-20 -- except that the Nipper transfer is style in use in 1910. Given the apparent restoration, it may be that the transfer is not original. If it is, it's an example of a machine being made up to fit an old-stock cabinet -- not uncommon at Hayes, especially during the First World War.
Re: HMV identification
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 8:16 pm
by ticticdok
Thank you for the information. John
HMV identification possible 101?
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 1:59 pm
by Brian C
I have a new arrival, nice u it and working fine. Just no id label or tag.
The sound unit is a No.4, the winder screws in, and it has a brake and speed adjust. The recess looks like other 101's
Any ideas if an old 101 or early 102, etc?
Regards
Brian
Re: HMV identification
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 3:07 pm
by An Balores
Looks like a typical 101 to me......
Re: HMV identification
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:22 pm
by Inigo
And seems of the intermediate era, not the latet ones, as it has the clips for the crank under the tonearm, and probably the old style motor, not the enclosed no59 but the former one (type 410 was it?). Does the soundbox carry the lettering at the back or it can be seen through the front mica?
Re: HMV identification
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 2:34 am
by Brian C
Hello Hugo
Nothing seen through the mica and has the wording on the back with No.4 on it. Photos attached.
I was thinking a mid 30's unit?
Regards
Brian.