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HMV dog breed ‘on the brink of extinction’
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:34 pm
by Damfino59
Since Nipper was a British dog I’ll just post this here:
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/hmv-dog-brink ... 0Mpht1BIBw
Re: HMV dog breed ‘on the brink of extinction’
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:32 pm
by VanEpsFan1914
And here I was convinced he was a Jack Russell terrier. I didn't know the Smooth Fox Terrier existed--let's hope they get some visibility as a result of this.
Re: HMV dog breed ‘on the brink of extinction’
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:57 pm
by JerryVan
VanEpsFan1914 wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:32 pm
And here I was convinced he was a Jack Russell terrier. I didn't know the Smooth Fox Terrier existed--let's hope they get some visibility as a result of this.
Ha! I thought Jack Russell too.
Re: HMV dog breed ‘on the brink of extinction’
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 8:49 am
by poodling around
JerryVan wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:57 pm
VanEpsFan1914 wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:32 pm
And here I was convinced he was a Jack Russell terrier. I didn't know the Smooth Fox Terrier existed--let's hope they get some visibility as a result of this.
Ha! I thought Jack Russell too.
The Daily Mail mentioned this too:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -show.html
It does say 'He was believed to have been a Smooth Fox Terrier' - so maybe not. (Not categorical).
It made me laugh when they said:
'The famously known HMV dog, Nipper, was born in Bristol in the late 19th century and was owned by Mark Henry Barraud.
Nipper was later passed onto Mark's brothers Philip and Francis following his death in 1887'.
Which could be read to mean Nipper was passed around after it died !
Re: HMV dog breed ‘on the brink of extinction’
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 10:42 am
by JerryVan
poodling around wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 8:49 am
JerryVan wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:57 pm
VanEpsFan1914 wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:32 pm
And here I was convinced he was a Jack Russell terrier. I didn't know the Smooth Fox Terrier existed--let's hope they get some visibility as a result of this.
Ha! I thought Jack Russell too.
The Daily Mail mentioned this too:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -show.html
It does say 'He was believed to have been a Smooth Fox Terrier' - so maybe not. (Not categorical).
It made me laugh when they said:
'The famously known HMV dog, Nipper, was born in Bristol in the late 19th century and was owned by Mark Henry Barraud.
Nipper was later passed onto Mark's brothers Philip and Francis following his death in 1887'.
Which could be read to mean Nipper was passed around after it died !
Nice gift!
Isn't there someone who recently claimed to own the bones of our beloved pooch?
Re: HMV dog breed ‘on the brink of extinction’
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:27 pm
by Inigo
There was s thread about that some months ago .. if you search for nipper and bones, you'll probably find out...
Re: HMV dog breed ‘on the brink of extinction’
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:19 pm
by epigramophone
In an article for The Strand magazine, Francis Barraud wrote :
"Nipper, the original living dog, belonged to my brother Mark, who was a scenic artist in Bristol for many years. He never left my brother's heels; when Mark took his call for a transformation scene, Nipper always followed him on to the stage.
When my brother died, Nipper attached himself to me, and I had him for many years."
Re: HMV dog breed ‘on the brink of extinction’
Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:09 am
by Oedipus
I thought he was a mongrel, but closer to a Jack Russell than anything else. Part of the problem is that many people, especially journalists, don't realise how small the trade mark gramophone was -- this account referred to it as 'large'! The top of the horn is about 16 inches from the base on which the gramophone (and Nipper) sits.
Re: HMV dog breed ‘on the brink of extinction’
Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 12:47 pm
by jamiegramo
I was always informed he was a Fox Terrier but that the breed now looks different to how it did in the 19th Century. In later years a Jack Russell often being the closest looking although longer in the snout.
I wonder now if HMV/EMI thought Fox Terrier was better marketing than mongrel. I think I’ll carry on thinking of him as a 19th Century Fox Terrier.