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Has this been cut down?

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JerryVan wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:32 pm Has this been cut down?

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Those legs look very odd and too short to me.

From Facebook Ad: That's an HMV 192, circa 1927, and based on what I found, it's complete. It had very short legs, according to the illustration in "HMV Gramophones -- 1921-1936."
Also See -- http://www.gramophones.info/gramophones.hmv.192.html

That was one of the deluxe models, fitted with a gradually tapered "swan neck" style tone arm, #4 sound box, and very long (nearly five feet) saxophone shaped horn that extends into the blanked off area of the record compartment below the horn's mouth. While not quite as powerful or room-filling as the HMV Re-Entrant gramophones which were modeled after the Orthophonic Victrola, it still does an excellent job handing electrically recorded records, and pumps out quite a bit of bass.

OrthoFan

A HMV 192 gramophone with the large saxophone horn for a $100 in Michigan?

Run don’t walk. That #4 sound box may even be a brass one.

Of course, it's a brass one but forget that, $100 for a 192 is an insanely cheap price for such a deluxe machine. Even in the land of cheapskates and misers (yes, us lot on this side of the pond), you'd be lucky to find that here for that price. You'd be more likely to find one being sold by some chancer on Ebay for £800.

BTW I don't think the legs are cut down. It always had that rather squat appearance and you can't rely on the illustrations in the catalogue as often they were simple artists' impressions and didn't always correlate to the real thing.

Orthofan nailed it really. Run quickly and buy it now!

I simply have no room for it, sadly...

JerryVan wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:38 am I simply have no room for it, sadly...

You need to learn to make room! Call yourself a collector?

As Paul Morris tells me, there is always room for one more.

epigramophone wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 10:21 am As Paul Morris tells me, there is always room for one more.

And then eventually you move to somewhere bigger. And then repeat the whole process again until either the money runs out or you burn out altogether.

Steve wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 10:49 am

epigramophone wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 10:21 am As Paul Morris tells me, there is always room for one more.

And then eventually you move to somewhere bigger. And then repeat the whole process again until either the money runs out or you burn out altogether.

You have just described what I call, "The Collector's Conundrum": If you have enough money, you'll run out of space, and if you have enough space, you'll run out of money.